It would be nice to think that such immoral and reprehensible behavior would drive Menendez from office and into a jail cell. However, don’t expect the corporate-owned media to be an ally in such good work. Think Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, etc. etc. etc.
Of course, neither side has a lock on immoral and reprehensible behavior. Think “pre-emptive warfare”, drone strikes, fiat currency, excessive taxation, overreaching government, rendition, torture, the surveillance state, CISPA, corporate welfare, etc. etc. etc.
In the end we’re going to actually have to look at the way these guys/gals vote or voted. Right now, Rubio is a step in the right direction from Romney, but he still has a long way to go to overcome his voting record.
Cynthia is correct, Cruz or Rand Paul right now over Rubio.
Keep beating that Rand Paul drum, this leftie loves to hear it. It will take an entire generation for Americans to forget the Paul mantra of returning to 1890. When the first reaction to the expression of the opponent’s name is ‘oh, god’, followed by ‘bring him on’, you know he ain’t going anywhere. Bring him on.
The best thing the GOP has going is the guy they all want to shoot in the leg. He is potentially the only leader, but he won’t be without his challenges.
As for Menendez, he is as toast as Assad. You can’t forget about 58 grand in airplane rides and then remember later when confronted. Whether he did absolutely nothing else wrong; it is enough to end his career in my book.
I have no time for lawbreaking lawmakers.
58 grand is a helluva expensive plane ticket, though, eh?
Obscene as it may sound, 58 grand goes really fast when you’re talking about private jet travel. I believe NetJets ends up being in the neighborhood of $4,000/flight hour, and that doesn’t include the initial cost of purchasing a fractional share in the first place…
…which means yes, it is something that in this day and age any public official is mind bogglingly stupid enough to accept a ride on a private jet for a personal trip without paying for it.
This is such as blatant case of the “state sponsored” left leaning media covering for their own; imagine if Menendez was a Republican—he’d have had to resign within days of the investigation having been announced.
Menendez probably figures, “Hey, look at Charlie Rangel.”
And Rubio gulps down a glass of water and they can’t find enough salutations in which to promote the story. You cat bet the leftist media is investigating every tax return, every matter of record throughout Rubio’s life. They can’t allow prominent, attrachtive women or so called minorities in positons of leadership. Look at Sarah Palin, Dan Quayle (comparatively young, the first of his generation to be chosed a VP candidate of a major party, good looking), Michele Bachmann, et. al.
In a sense, nothing, but in another sense, everything. The point is hypocrisy. The liberal establishment and the mainstream media treat black conservatives as Uncle Toms, and black liberals as heroes. Hispanic conservatives should be ridiculed for the silliest things, while hispanic liberals should get a pass so big you can drive a truck through it. Liberal Women are held up as historic opportunities to elect a woman president, while conservative women are parodied as idiots and not taken seriously. The only reason for noting heritage is to show, apples to apples, the inconsistency.
That Senator Menendez appears to have made some….questionable ethical decisions which have brought about investigations by the FBI and the Senate Ethics Committee has not gone uncovered in the political media. The available details about the particulars, however, don’t make it terribly surprising that they haven’t gotten much play in the vapid media circus of popular news. They really aren’t that spicy.
The lurid image macro posted by George Michalopulous has one rather substantial problem with it: it chides the media for having a double standard and ignoring the salacious story of a senator having sex with underage prostitutes as if the Senator having done so were established fact.
The reality, of course, is that at this point in time there is no credible evidence supporting the anonymous allegation that Senator Menendez patronized underage prostitutes. If one actually reads political news sources, one would know this, and know that the allegation was in fact under the umbrella of things the FBI was looking into, but at this point appears to be unsubstantiated.
Of course, the image macro makes no such distinctions, it presents as statement of fact. And so, whatever Menendez may or not may be guilty of, one thing we may be sure of at this juncture is that George Michalopulous is guilty of public slander (ignoring for the moment the technical difference between libel and slander, or the details of the relevant tort law, let us merely concern ourselves with say “basic Christian principles”).
Now, this is America, and Menendez is a public official, which means George Michalopulous may publicly slander him with basically no worries about any legal repercussions. However, this may lead a reader of his material to ponder what other targets this behavior might extend to, and just how often he presents unsubstantiated claims as fact. Perhaps he should begin using the byline Geraldo Michalopulous.
Yeah, but we got Rubio dead to rights, man! Right? I mean, we have actual pictures of him drinking that water, right? Thinks he’s gonna run for president some day? We’ll bring this up every time he dares to surface. I bet if we look close enough we can find a picture of him eating a sandwich. I can’t believe the sheer hubris, the audacity! Did he think we wouldn’t notice? IT’S A BOTTLE OF WATER AND IT’S RIGHT IN OUR FACE, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Oh, the humanity!
•Oil is under 1,750 square miles of central and southern California
•The oil, which is deeper beneath the surface than other reserves and hidden in pockets, can finally be reached thanks to developed technology
•Companies are quietly buying up mineral rights to the public land
•But it is also galvanising environmentalists who are fighting against the use of ‘fracking’ to extract the oil and fear damage to the fertile land
By Lydia Warren
PUBLISHED: 15:55 EST, 21 February 2013 | UPDATED: 08:40 EST, 22 February 2013
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California has an estimated 15.4 billion barrels of crude oil beneath its fertile farmland – and now companies are scrambling to get their hands on it, putting the lush landscape in danger.
While the ‘Monterey Shale’ has long been believed to be under 1,750 square miles of central and southern California, technology is finally able to extract it, potentially sparking a huge oil boom.
But the oil could also prove a massive area of conflict between the oil companies and the state’s powerful environmental interests, as campaigners protest against the use of fracking to extract it.
There are also fears that the fertile landscape will be taken over by looming drills and oil sites, pushing out vineyards, endangering rare species and flattening the rolling hills.
Reserve: The Monterey Shale is believed to be under 1,750 sq miles of central and southern California
But amid the concerns, companies are staking their claim on the shale, quietly buying up mineral rights and carrying out tests across the state – all behind a veil of secrecy.
If companies can extract it, it will turn the state from the third biggest producer of oil to the first – as the Monterey Shale has four times as much oil as Texas, currently the biggest producer.
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Companies have be unable to reach the oil before now because tectonic activity folded the rock and pushed oil into layered pockets that are expensive to reach.
The oil is also 6,000 to 15,000 feet beneath the surface, while in other areas, like Midway-Sunset in California, companies need only drill up to 2,000 feet.
Fertile: The vineyards of Hames Valley near Bradley, where a battle for mineral rights is underway. The area is home to several endangered species – but also one of the largest deposits of shale oil in the country
Bleak future: Companies are buying up mineral rights to public land and carrying out test drills
GOING BOOM: AMERICA’S INCREASING OIL PRODUCTION
In December, Exxon Mobil Corp. predicted that the U.S. will become an oil exporter by 2025, due to an increase in production and energy efficiencies.
Texas is the top producer of crude oil and its on the increase; in September, the state’s crude-oil production reached two million barrels per day, while production in 2011 was 1.5 million barrels per day.
North Dakota produced 728,000 barrels of oil a day in September, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
California takes the third place for production, with 524,000 barrels of oil a day in September. Despite this central role in oil production, it has some of the highest gas prices in the nation.
Alaska is the fourth largest producer, with 502,000 barrels a day in September, and Oklahoma produced 250,000 barrels, putting it in fifth place, according to the EIA.
Source: Market Watch
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But technological advances have now made extracting the Monterey Shale more likely, the New York Times reported, and old and new companies are swooping in to stake a claim.
Mineral rights to public lands are being sold by the Bureau of Land Management and plots have soared from $2 an acre to more than a thousand dollars each.
The successful bidders have 10 years to develop a working oil well on the land or the lease expires, NBC News explained. The government receives 12.5 per cent of revenues from the oil.
‘It’s good for us,’ Gabe Garcia, an assistant field officer for the Bureau of Land Management, told NBC. ‘Last year we brought in $190 million.’
Companies have begun drilling holes northwest of Bakersfield to see if they hit the jackpot, keeping quiet about what, when and how they’re exploring – as well as what they find.
‘Our companies are not forthcoming on their business plans,’ said Tupper Hull from the Western States Petroleum Association, which represents companies including Occidental and Venoco. ‘These are pretty smart people, they’re pretty good at what they do. They’re pretty competitive out there.’
And while little has been revealed about the success of the searches, still they continue.
Destruction: A gas flare burns at a fracking site in rural Bradford County, Pennsylvania
‘There are billions of barrels of oil buried in the Monterey Shale, and as far as I know, nobody’s been able to find it yet,’ Neil Ormond, the president of Petroleum Land Management, told the Times.
‘But I think there’s going to be more people looking for it. You can’t let a few dry holes discourage the whole thing, because if you find oil, you make money.’
But as well as exciting oilmen, the Monterey Shale has also sprung environmentalists into action.
To extract the oil, companies would use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, which is the drilling technique used in booms elsewhere – but campaigners deem unsafe for the environment.
The geological formation means the fracking will also have to be more intensive in the area, which is dangerous because of the various tectonic plates beneath California, environmentalists say.
Anger: Protestors hold signs against fracking – the method by which the oil is extracted – during a demo outside of the California Environmental Protection Agency Headquarters in Sacramento last year
While there is currently no legislation against fracking in California, the State Department of Conservation released a draft of fracking rules, starting the process to set regulations.
But not every large company is getting involved with the process; Chevron has drilled into the area but has ‘not been encouraged by the results’, it told NBC in a statement.
Others aren’t giving up just yet.
‘I don’t really know what the break point is for the companies,’ Tupper Hull, from the petroleum association, added. ‘That’s what our members are trying to figure out right now.’
Read more: NBC — Next oil boom could be buried beneath fertile Calif. farmland
New York Times — Vast Oil Reserve May Now Be Within Reach, and Battle Heats Up
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Well, if you could developed the Central Vallley of Ca for oil and get rid of the farms. We import more food from foreign countries anyways, or the farmers moved to other states, some illlegal immirgants would have to go home. HIspanics might become less important.
It is environmentally better to produce oil locally than to import it shipped from the other side of the world by tanker.
– Alex88 , Houston, United States, 22/2/2013 23:25
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i notice the greenie tree huggers are at it again..endangered this endangered that…the only species that should be endangered is them….
– mot123 , townsville, Australia, 22/2/2013 22:42
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Farmers selling MINERAL RIGHTS. Not the surface. The pumps are a nothing. I grew up in Bakersfield and they were everywhere. And caused NO problem. California is sinking. Kick old Jerry B in the backside and get this going. Stupid Stupid Stupid to do otherwise. But I’m sure Fearless Leader and the Feds will get in the way somehow. Kind of like the Keystone Pipeline?
– JRick , Metairie, 22/2/2013 20:32
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About time, gas is close to 5$ now.
– DrWho , Orange, 22/2/2013 19:47
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Nuke Kalifornia and then go for the oil. It will be addition by subtraction, everybody wins!
– Hojo , Virginia Beach, United States, 22/2/2013 19:38
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Hmmm, oil or food, oil or food, decisions, decisions …
– KerensaB , Key West, United States, 22/2/2013 19:33
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We need the oil, we need the revenue and we need the jobs. There has been oil fields in California for many years without any major issues. Our state is BROKE.
– Taofledermaus , Youtube, United States, 22/2/2013 18:53
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I can guarantee that farmers all over So Cal are jumping for joy. They will simply sell their land at a great profit and will move to another state, where they can buy a much bigger farm and make more money in the future.. this is an economic game changer for farmers living on the edge…
– itsawarzone , Allentown, United States, 22/2/2013 17:36
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Don’t worry, it is CA, no way the leftist government lets them drill.
– Robert , Atlanta, 22/2/2013 17:19
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Please explain to me how drilling for oil would damage the drinking water or food. There are many many things put in place to make sure the water table is never exposed to any oil or gas (they are drilling thousands of feet deeper than the drinking water to get to the shale) and the only way the farmland might be contaminated is if there were an oil spill which is incredibly rare in comparison to the number of wells that are safely drilled every day.
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It would be nice to think that such immoral and reprehensible behavior would drive Menendez from office and into a jail cell. However, don’t expect the corporate-owned media to be an ally in such good work. Think Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, etc. etc. etc.
Of course, neither side has a lock on immoral and reprehensible behavior. Think “pre-emptive warfare”, drone strikes, fiat currency, excessive taxation, overreaching government, rendition, torture, the surveillance state, CISPA, corporate welfare, etc. etc. etc.
Well, George I’m not a big fan of Rubio either, Ted Cruz is better.
In the end we’re going to actually have to look at the way these guys/gals vote or voted. Right now, Rubio is a step in the right direction from Romney, but he still has a long way to go to overcome his voting record.
Cynthia is correct, Cruz or Rand Paul right now over Rubio.
It seems that Glenn Beck even gets it. Not that Beck won’t change his mind tomorrow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYDf8yGaSaE
Keep beating that Rand Paul drum, this leftie loves to hear it. It will take an entire generation for Americans to forget the Paul mantra of returning to 1890. When the first reaction to the expression of the opponent’s name is ‘oh, god’, followed by ‘bring him on’, you know he ain’t going anywhere. Bring him on.
The best thing the GOP has going is the guy they all want to shoot in the leg. He is potentially the only leader, but he won’t be without his challenges.
As for Menendez, he is as toast as Assad. You can’t forget about 58 grand in airplane rides and then remember later when confronted. Whether he did absolutely nothing else wrong; it is enough to end his career in my book.
I have no time for lawbreaking lawmakers.
58 grand is a helluva expensive plane ticket, though, eh?
Obscene as it may sound, 58 grand goes really fast when you’re talking about private jet travel. I believe NetJets ends up being in the neighborhood of $4,000/flight hour, and that doesn’t include the initial cost of purchasing a fractional share in the first place…
…which means yes, it is something that in this day and age any public official is mind bogglingly stupid enough to accept a ride on a private jet for a personal trip without paying for it.
This is such as blatant case of the “state sponsored” left leaning media covering for their own; imagine if Menendez was a Republican—he’d have had to resign within days of the investigation having been announced.
Menendez probably figures, “Hey, look at Charlie Rangel.”
And Rubio gulps down a glass of water and they can’t find enough salutations in which to promote the story. You cat bet the leftist media is investigating every tax return, every matter of record throughout Rubio’s life. They can’t allow prominent, attrachtive women or so called minorities in positons of leadership. Look at Sarah Palin, Dan Quayle (comparatively young, the first of his generation to be chosed a VP candidate of a major party, good looking), Michele Bachmann, et. al.
Welcome to the New World Order. Progressivism covers a multitude of sins, while traditionalism is the unpardonable sin.
what difference does a person’s heritage make?
In a sense, nothing, but in another sense, everything. The point is hypocrisy. The liberal establishment and the mainstream media treat black conservatives as Uncle Toms, and black liberals as heroes. Hispanic conservatives should be ridiculed for the silliest things, while hispanic liberals should get a pass so big you can drive a truck through it. Liberal Women are held up as historic opportunities to elect a woman president, while conservative women are parodied as idiots and not taken seriously. The only reason for noting heritage is to show, apples to apples, the inconsistency.
That Senator Menendez appears to have made some….questionable ethical decisions which have brought about investigations by the FBI and the Senate Ethics Committee has not gone uncovered in the political media. The available details about the particulars, however, don’t make it terribly surprising that they haven’t gotten much play in the vapid media circus of popular news. They really aren’t that spicy.
The lurid image macro posted by George Michalopulous has one rather substantial problem with it: it chides the media for having a double standard and ignoring the salacious story of a senator having sex with underage prostitutes as if the Senator having done so were established fact.
The reality, of course, is that at this point in time there is no credible evidence supporting the anonymous allegation that Senator Menendez patronized underage prostitutes. If one actually reads political news sources, one would know this, and know that the allegation was in fact under the umbrella of things the FBI was looking into, but at this point appears to be unsubstantiated.
Of course, the image macro makes no such distinctions, it presents as statement of fact. And so, whatever Menendez may or not may be guilty of, one thing we may be sure of at this juncture is that George Michalopulous is guilty of public slander (ignoring for the moment the technical difference between libel and slander, or the details of the relevant tort law, let us merely concern ourselves with say “basic Christian principles”).
Now, this is America, and Menendez is a public official, which means George Michalopulous may publicly slander him with basically no worries about any legal repercussions. However, this may lead a reader of his material to ponder what other targets this behavior might extend to, and just how often he presents unsubstantiated claims as fact. Perhaps he should begin using the byline Geraldo Michalopulous.
Yeah, but we got Rubio dead to rights, man! Right? I mean, we have actual pictures of him drinking that water, right? Thinks he’s gonna run for president some day? We’ll bring this up every time he dares to surface. I bet if we look close enough we can find a picture of him eating a sandwich. I can’t believe the sheer hubris, the audacity! Did he think we wouldn’t notice? IT’S A BOTTLE OF WATER AND IT’S RIGHT IN OUR FACE, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Oh, the humanity!
•Oil is under 1,750 square miles of central and southern California
•The oil, which is deeper beneath the surface than other reserves and hidden in pockets, can finally be reached thanks to developed technology
•Companies are quietly buying up mineral rights to the public land
•But it is also galvanising environmentalists who are fighting against the use of ‘fracking’ to extract the oil and fear damage to the fertile land
By Lydia Warren
PUBLISHED: 15:55 EST, 21 February 2013 | UPDATED: 08:40 EST, 22 February 2013
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California has an estimated 15.4 billion barrels of crude oil beneath its fertile farmland – and now companies are scrambling to get their hands on it, putting the lush landscape in danger.
While the ‘Monterey Shale’ has long been believed to be under 1,750 square miles of central and southern California, technology is finally able to extract it, potentially sparking a huge oil boom.
But the oil could also prove a massive area of conflict between the oil companies and the state’s powerful environmental interests, as campaigners protest against the use of fracking to extract it.
There are also fears that the fertile landscape will be taken over by looming drills and oil sites, pushing out vineyards, endangering rare species and flattening the rolling hills.
Reserve: The Monterey Shale is believed to be under 1,750 sq miles of central and southern California
But amid the concerns, companies are staking their claim on the shale, quietly buying up mineral rights and carrying out tests across the state – all behind a veil of secrecy.
If companies can extract it, it will turn the state from the third biggest producer of oil to the first – as the Monterey Shale has four times as much oil as Texas, currently the biggest producer.
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Companies have be unable to reach the oil before now because tectonic activity folded the rock and pushed oil into layered pockets that are expensive to reach.
The oil is also 6,000 to 15,000 feet beneath the surface, while in other areas, like Midway-Sunset in California, companies need only drill up to 2,000 feet.
Fertile: The vineyards of Hames Valley near Bradley, where a battle for mineral rights is underway. The area is home to several endangered species – but also one of the largest deposits of shale oil in the country
Bleak future: Companies are buying up mineral rights to public land and carrying out test drills
GOING BOOM: AMERICA’S INCREASING OIL PRODUCTION
In December, Exxon Mobil Corp. predicted that the U.S. will become an oil exporter by 2025, due to an increase in production and energy efficiencies.
Texas is the top producer of crude oil and its on the increase; in September, the state’s crude-oil production reached two million barrels per day, while production in 2011 was 1.5 million barrels per day.
North Dakota produced 728,000 barrels of oil a day in September, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
California takes the third place for production, with 524,000 barrels of oil a day in September. Despite this central role in oil production, it has some of the highest gas prices in the nation.
Alaska is the fourth largest producer, with 502,000 barrels a day in September, and Oklahoma produced 250,000 barrels, putting it in fifth place, according to the EIA.
Source: Market Watch
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But technological advances have now made extracting the Monterey Shale more likely, the New York Times reported, and old and new companies are swooping in to stake a claim.
Mineral rights to public lands are being sold by the Bureau of Land Management and plots have soared from $2 an acre to more than a thousand dollars each.
The successful bidders have 10 years to develop a working oil well on the land or the lease expires, NBC News explained. The government receives 12.5 per cent of revenues from the oil.
‘It’s good for us,’ Gabe Garcia, an assistant field officer for the Bureau of Land Management, told NBC. ‘Last year we brought in $190 million.’
Companies have begun drilling holes northwest of Bakersfield to see if they hit the jackpot, keeping quiet about what, when and how they’re exploring – as well as what they find.
‘Our companies are not forthcoming on their business plans,’ said Tupper Hull from the Western States Petroleum Association, which represents companies including Occidental and Venoco. ‘These are pretty smart people, they’re pretty good at what they do. They’re pretty competitive out there.’
And while little has been revealed about the success of the searches, still they continue.
Destruction: A gas flare burns at a fracking site in rural Bradford County, Pennsylvania
‘There are billions of barrels of oil buried in the Monterey Shale, and as far as I know, nobody’s been able to find it yet,’ Neil Ormond, the president of Petroleum Land Management, told the Times.
‘But I think there’s going to be more people looking for it. You can’t let a few dry holes discourage the whole thing, because if you find oil, you make money.’
But as well as exciting oilmen, the Monterey Shale has also sprung environmentalists into action.
To extract the oil, companies would use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, which is the drilling technique used in booms elsewhere – but campaigners deem unsafe for the environment.
The geological formation means the fracking will also have to be more intensive in the area, which is dangerous because of the various tectonic plates beneath California, environmentalists say.
Anger: Protestors hold signs against fracking – the method by which the oil is extracted – during a demo outside of the California Environmental Protection Agency Headquarters in Sacramento last year
While there is currently no legislation against fracking in California, the State Department of Conservation released a draft of fracking rules, starting the process to set regulations.
But not every large company is getting involved with the process; Chevron has drilled into the area but has ‘not been encouraged by the results’, it told NBC in a statement.
Others aren’t giving up just yet.
‘I don’t really know what the break point is for the companies,’ Tupper Hull, from the petroleum association, added. ‘That’s what our members are trying to figure out right now.’
Read more: NBC — Next oil boom could be buried beneath fertile Calif. farmland
New York Times — Vast Oil Reserve May Now Be Within Reach, and Battle Heats Up
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Well, if you could developed the Central Vallley of Ca for oil and get rid of the farms. We import more food from foreign countries anyways, or the farmers moved to other states, some illlegal immirgants would have to go home. HIspanics might become less important.
It is environmentally better to produce oil locally than to import it shipped from the other side of the world by tanker.
– Alex88 , Houston, United States, 22/2/2013 23:25
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i notice the greenie tree huggers are at it again..endangered this endangered that…the only species that should be endangered is them….
– mot123 , townsville, Australia, 22/2/2013 22:42
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Farmers selling MINERAL RIGHTS. Not the surface. The pumps are a nothing. I grew up in Bakersfield and they were everywhere. And caused NO problem. California is sinking. Kick old Jerry B in the backside and get this going. Stupid Stupid Stupid to do otherwise. But I’m sure Fearless Leader and the Feds will get in the way somehow. Kind of like the Keystone Pipeline?
– JRick , Metairie, 22/2/2013 20:32
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About time, gas is close to 5$ now.
– DrWho , Orange, 22/2/2013 19:47
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Nuke Kalifornia and then go for the oil. It will be addition by subtraction, everybody wins!
– Hojo , Virginia Beach, United States, 22/2/2013 19:38
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Hmmm, oil or food, oil or food, decisions, decisions …
– KerensaB , Key West, United States, 22/2/2013 19:33
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We need the oil, we need the revenue and we need the jobs. There has been oil fields in California for many years without any major issues. Our state is BROKE.
– Taofledermaus , Youtube, United States, 22/2/2013 18:53
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I can guarantee that farmers all over So Cal are jumping for joy. They will simply sell their land at a great profit and will move to another state, where they can buy a much bigger farm and make more money in the future.. this is an economic game changer for farmers living on the edge…
– itsawarzone , Allentown, United States, 22/2/2013 17:36
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Don’t worry, it is CA, no way the leftist government lets them drill.
– Robert , Atlanta, 22/2/2013 17:19
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Please explain to me how drilling for oil would damage the drinking water or food. There are many many things put in place to make sure the water table is never exposed to any oil or gas (they are drilling thousands of feet deeper than the drinking water to get to the shale) and the only way the farmland might be contaminated is if there were an oil spill which is incredibly rare in comparison to the number of wells that are safely drilled every day.
– sskiles , USA, 22/2/2013 17:11
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