Why Multiculturalism Sucks

 

Why Multiculturalism Sucks

. . . and will be the ruination of this nation. Just like it has been the ruination of every nation that has tried it.

Don’t believe me? Two words: Ilhan Omar.

The simple truth is that Omar enjoys the fruits of American combat deaths, yet she can’t even bring herself to acknowledge the ultimate sacrifice that was made on her behalf, either as a Somali or an “American”. (I’m sorry, I don’t view people of her ilk and ingratitude as “American” in any way, shape, manner or form. There, I said it.)

Her clan didn’t stand a chance against rival clans who were more powerful, so I don’t blame her for leaving. Although I am personally quite squeamish about the fact that she married her brother in order to get him into America, I guess we can chalk that up to desperation as well. (But then again, it’s her brother.) But I do blame her for attacking those servicemen who had zero personal interest or investment in her nation for doing their jobs because the Commander-in-Chief asked them to.

I can’t stress this enough: I blame her for smearing American servicemen who answered the call of our nation to address the violent barbarism of hers.

Personally, Representative Omar did us a big (if unwitting) favor. I would like every real American, especially those of us who live in the Red states (i.e. “Flyover Country”) to take a long, hard look at Ilhan Omar and people like her. Especially the voters who put her into power and think about our foreign policy. How our commitment to “American Exceptionalism” blinds us –or rather tricks us–into believing we have a duty to throw our weight around the world in order to “save” miscreants like Omar.

For Orthodox Christians in America especially, this should wound us even more. Over the last fifty years, our foreign policy hurt us in Cyprus and Kosovo. The Greeks and the Serbs fought on the side of the Allies in both world wars, yet the Turks and the Muslims have been the beneficiaries of the sacrifices of Orthodox nations. Let that sink in for awhile.

Then there’s Georgia. The late, not-so-great John McCain goaded the poor sap who was the president of Georgia at the time to provoke the Russian Federation. He did and his country is the poorer for it. Now John Bolton and Mike Pompeo are scrambling to pick up the pieces of their Ukrainian misadventure, where they assured the former president that they would come to his aid because everybody knows that “muh Russia”. (Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Russia join us in the fight against Hitler?)

The icing on the cake of our commitment to “religious freedom” of course is the recent revelations that Ambassadors Sam Brownback and Geoffrey Hyatt have been strong-arming Greek bishops and abbots to go along with their quest for more [ahem] religious freedom in Ukraine.

What gall. The only silver lining at present is that they appear to be failing and word on the street is that John Bolton is on his way out.

I’ll be writing more about these latest developments at a future date. For now, I want to bring this back to Omar and what her worldview portends for the future of our Republic as more and more people like her infiltrate our land.

The word nation comes from the Latin natus which means “birth”. A nation is not merely a polity (it is that) but it is an ethnicity as well –in Greek, the word for nation is ethnos. It is an extended family extended over many generations. Our Founding Fathers knew this, that’s why in the Preamble to the Constitution, they wrote these words:

“We, the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

This means our children, our descendants. Yes, this did not include American Indians (whom the Declaration of Independence called “merciless savages”) or African slaves. But that proves the point doesn’t it? And yes, it didn’t include people like me, who did not have an ancestor arrive on The Mayflower. But it did leave the option open for those Christian, European immigrants who chose to leave behind their previous allegiances in order to come and tame the land. To assimilate and in time (usually three generations) become Americans.

Omar and her ilk show no signs of doing so. Their ingratitude is bad enough but her refusal to abide by our norms bodes ill for the future.

I realize that in some ways, it’s not her fault. Her allegiance to Sharia law is normative for one of her religion. It logically trumps devotion to the Constitution. And to be fair, it is more long-lived than our Constitution by at least a millennium. But therein lies the rub, does it not? One cannot expect those of us who adhere to Western norms to sit idly by while our native lands (in this I speak of Europe as well) are overwhelmed by those who have absolutely no compunction in doing so.

Therefore, in the final analysis, it’s not about the Sharia, it’s about the cohesion. A nation cannot remain cohesive if significant parts of it, for whatever reason, choose to live outside its norms, mores and customs. If nothing else, I implore those of us who are conservative and vote conservative, to think long and hard about not only our hyper-interventionist foreign policy but to ponder on the meaning of what it means to be a nation.

The next time some Neoliberal or Neoconservative goes on MSNBC or FOX and wraps himself in Old Glory and tells us we have to go and “liberate” such-and-such country because reasons, simply ask this question: “Why?” Then tell them to go to any major American city and look at the bridges and overpasses and see all the people who live under them. Then, when they solve that problem (which they won’t as it would entail having to shut off all immigration), we can consider spending our blood and treasure overseas.

Comments

  1. Will America finally realize it has been duped by the popes? Behind every Catholic is a muslim. Look at Ocasio’s staffers on Linked In. The Catholics brought in muslims to fight Orthodox and jews. Brzezinski invented Zia in Pakistan, the Persian Ayatolahs and Bin Laden because he thought it would hurt RUssia. He also despised Israel because they built nukes with South Africa during his reign, andhe openly mentioned this when he supported Persian nukes. Now Biden prefers China over Russia. The reason America cannot be Great Again, is because it is now Coatholic. Ocasio and Rubio are two sides of the same casuistry coin.

    • This is serious stuff says

      AOC is in reality a naïve and incompetent actress who dupes many on a daily basis. The brains behind her are the Young Turks and other socialists who despise freedom – the “new Gnostics” who think they know what’s best for the world, but who are (on a basic level) evil and power-hungry. The fact that AOC has not yet been laughed out if town says a lot about the state of our country and of its leadership.

      Awesome video that all must be aware of: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGUfree

      The biggest risk they took is that AOC is probably simply too stupid to be an effective actress – they may not be able to control her as much as they had thought.

      Yes, there are many influential powers that despise Orthodox Christianity, Christ, and freedom. Tragically, many powerful Roman Catholics would rather buddy up with Muslims if it hurts Christ’s Holy Church (Orthodoxy) – case in point, the Orthodoxy-hater Zbigniew Brzezinski. Look at the damage that the Vatican has already unleashed on the Patriarchate of Constantinople – possibly damage at least for centuries to come.

      Thank God for the freedom the Church in Russia now has.

      Christ is risen!

    • George I read yr multiculturism stuff nodding my head at almost every word. Having worked in Uk NHS I know the pack drill well.
      Because I know you are not some racist narrow biggott but telling it how it is. We had the Pope here in week lecturing the bulgars to open the gates and flood and destroy their society as they get duped and dumped with the consequences of a John Bolton ( he going?? MUSIC TO MY EARS ???. But they got more sense and see Greece.
      There are uk schools where kids are fed halal meat and told not to wear a Cross.
      ( or a chain as they put it, as they could never utter the word Cross.)

      Today is feast of Kyril and Methodi and here it’s associated with Slav Culture and letters and of course the Cyrillic alphabet. Bulgaria was an important link in this process, especially re. Russia.
      It is also a celebration of identity. I dare say that they would ban if they could.
      We have a 200 Ye old church of St Kyrill and Methodi here and we attended liturgy there, beautifully sung by a group of females including the blessing of water etc at end. And yes I will mention no rows of pews and acapella. If annoys anybody too bad.

      Re Omar, i agree. These Oh so liberal people as we know. I have Muslim friends to whom I sent best wishes for a Ramadan Fast but they know full well I am an Orthodox Christian and respect that.
      It’s interesting that during Lent nothing (uk) is ever said about Orthodox Christians fasting.

      I being greek now living in Bulgaria, go out of my way to respect bulgarian sensitivities. And you know our shared history was not always a bowel of cherries!! But the likes of Omar see this as one way street. Yes we can disagree with the wars but soldiers do not have much choice. The liberals may look down on people in uniform, but they would be first in demanding to be defended.

      And just some thoughts on Pascha. One of the delights of celebration of Pascha here is escaping the greek Candle worship at Easter with the decorated expensive candle waved up and down and dripping everywhere, but never a thought to stay and attend the Pascal liturgy. Here people buy a simple 30 cents candle to hold and stay foe liturgy.
      And the greek mostly, obscession with the ‘Holy Light’ from Jerusalem, that seems to take presedence over the fact of Christ’s Reserrection.
      Is. It a miracle? I do not know and do not care. Although anything coming from that gang of corrupt crooks, leaves me with doubt.
      As far as I am concerned the light from the candle of the Parish priest does just as well to celebrate the Reserrection of Christ. Χριστός Ανέστη .!!

  2. Constantinos says

    Hi George,
    The President of the US is required to be a native born American. That same standard should apply to the Congress of the US. If a person is not a native born US citizen, then that person should be disqualified from serving in all branches of government. It applies to the President, it should apply to Congress as well.

    • Agreed. Totally.

      • Yes our Don etc may have their Russian financial interest but nobody ever says what interests are driving the foreign policy of an Omar or a Bryshinski etc.

    • We in Australia have this need for natives only in government. I can see how that could be good for patriotism, stability etc. and yet it’s not having that affect here. So while we mightn’t have an Ilhan Omar ruining things for us, we might as well have, as Australia joins the rest of the West in the race to the bottom.

    • Teresa A. Polychronis says

      Not Native Born – NATURAL BORN! Big difference. The POTUS and VPOTUS must be Natural Born Citizens (NBC). To be a NBC both parents must be USA citizens at time of his/her birth. NBC is a fact of birth. It cannot be decreed, legislated or adjudicated. On the other hand, a Native Birn citizen is merely a person born in the USA to one or both non-citizen parents.

  3. “Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Russia join us in the fight against Hitler?”

    Hmm, wasn’t it other way around? Two years later with Allied invasion of Sicily and three years later with invasion of Normandy?

    • Stalin was Hitler’s ally. Of this there can be no doubt. However it was Japan which almost destroyed the Pacific fleet. Why didn’t we concentrate our firepower on Japan?

      Regardless, it is a fact that we teamed up with Uncle Joe to defeat Hitler. And if Hitler is the be all and end all of evil then we should look askance at the ukronazi regime put in place by the Maidan coup in 2014.

      • George: “Stalin was Hitler’s ally. Of this there can be no doubt.”

        It was not so simple. One could say that France and England were Hitler’s allies when they agreed to subdue Czechs, Poland even took part of territory.

        Soviets were aware that Nazi declared plan was to destroy them (they fought proxy war in Spain). The non-aggression treaty with Germany was done to gain time and strategic depth (by gaining 200 miles), the treaty was not an alliance and was secretly signed after West refused to form anti-German alliance with Soviet Russia.

        There was also non-aggression treaty between Japan and Soviet Union.
        A lot of complications and not much black and white picture.

        • Read Icebreaker by Suvurov. Stalin was planning on invading Europe from the get-go.

        • Exactly. Russian policy is always to buffer it’s vulnerable frontiers.
          It’s clear as day that at Munich, Europe was betrayed. As for buying extra time to arm, well so did Hitler and he gained the Czech very modern weapons and Skoda armaments.

      • Solitary Priest says

        Bingo!

  4. Antiochene Son says

    Well said, George. This land was not made for people like Ilhan Omar.

    (That said, since she is in fact in Congress, I am grateful for her voice when it comes to issues related to Israel. But that would not be a problem either if the US establishment wasn’t full of… shall we say, special interests… of that kind.)

  5. Gail Sheppard says

    So many who employ a victim mentality are doing so in the face of contrary evidence. How many Somali “victims” get to have their very own soapbox afforded by the U.S.government? One too many if you ask me. I’m tired of this woman’s antisemitic statements, propensity to paint the U.S. as the villain in every scenario and thinly veiled threats: “Because of this (making a wide circle with my hand), you don’t get to do that.” Indeed. No wonder Pence has renewed his call for Democratic leadership to remove this deluded woman from her seat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. She is openly hostile toward the very country who gave her a voice in the first place. So add stupid to the list of things I dislike about her. She’s a very, very stupid woman who doesn’t seem to realize she is just a flash in the pan. A couple of years from now, we’ll be seeing her in some reality show. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/pence-calls-for-omar-to-be-removed-from-house-foreign-affairs-committee

    • If we’re tired of her ‘antisemitic statements,’ why can’t we tire of the constant ‘Islamophobic’ statements of our politicians? No one is allowed to criticize Israel in America. No one. Muslims get slated constantly by public officials and other public figures.

      I’m as opposed to Islam as much as the next sane person, but we Americans need to be less myopic about Israel. Israel is the reason why there is so much turmoil in the Middle East – not only due to their constant provocations against the native populations and ongoing genocide of the Palestinians, but also because the weight of evidence for Mossad and Israeli involvement in 9/11 should be taken seriously by any American that cares about truth. Cui bono?

      • Gail Sheppard says

        Basil, I’m tired of all of it, although I think we have a little more to fear when it comes to Islam. In the United States, a 2011 Pew survey found that 86% of Muslims say violence against civilians in the name of Islam are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified and this is coming from them, not a politician. These are people here! https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

        I don’t defend Israel, nor do I vilify it (it’s just a place on the map to me), but any sane person can see that Israel is not the threat to our wellbeing that Islam is. Roughly 15% (reduced the number to capture only those who said violence was rarely justified, sometimes justified or always justified) of the 3.45M Muslims living in this country can visualize a scenario where violence against U.S. citizens in the name of Islam makes sense. This is terrifying. Israel doesn’t hate us like that.

        Look at this. It’s shocking:

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6994509/Muslim-children-Philadelphia-school-sing-chopping-heads-army-Allah.html

        • Gail: “a 2011 Pew survey found that 86% of Muslims say violence against civilians in the name of Islam are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified and this is coming from them, not a politician. ”

          OK, how many non-Muslims think that it is justified to bomb from a safe distance in the name what they believe, Church, Homeland, Democracy, Oil, etc … Even if there is a collateral damage among civilians? 10%? 50%?

          • Gail Sheppard says

            Martin, just because I have a genuine fear of radical Muslims does not mean I support the West in all things. I don’t. Two different things. But it should be said that I have never gone to a Muslim country, benefiting of the same, and then said it might be justified to harm their civilians. This is just bad manners.

        • Read the Talmud. Israel DOES hate us – they just don’t show it obviously. Muslims are useful idiots – they get provoked and react with violence, distracting us from the more insidious operators.

          • Gail Sheppard says

            I can’t argue that they don’t get provoked. I know they do. But they’re not proked by me and, therefore, I don’t have the same fear of them that I do of those who want to cut off the heads of Christians.

    • Αnd Occasio and o’ rourke, that other walking pseudo everything.

  6. While I hate everything Joseph Stalin stood for, and the horrors committed to personally survive, and control his empire, I can understand his actions, to “remove” all that opposed him. I do simply by observing the state in which our nation is currently in. The demons inside my head are not patient nor humble to those on the far left.

    Stalin had the stomach for it, and survived. The Tsar did not, and thus the forces around him consumed him, and his kingdom, leading us to Lenin, and later Stalin. Those men by their decisions, are reaping their rewards in very different kingdoms today, but what of the 100 million killed from, and more tortured from Communism? Will we learn the lessons of history, or be consumed by the new few of the left? Can’t happen in America? Wrong my friends, it can, and will, if allowed.

    Our nation is at tipping point, the right wing(whatever that means)can only barely keep the ship afloat without any major change, the left is constantly trying to sink the ship(bring it all down man!) that makes our nation, the great and powerful nation it is. Once finally sunk, there is no return, all will open to the will of the mob that produces nothing, and expects everything from it’s government. New definitions will be “encouraged” and later enforced.

    The question is, how do we keep the left from sinking us without bloodshed? The new left is pushing us into a corner. The Muslim Somali and new left want many changes. Credit Trump for triggering and exposing the new breed of leftist. Their unveiled exposure is a great plus for sensible Americans to witness, but are our votes enough, and for how long, with hordes of illegal border crossers, and legal American hating immigrants.

    Something to chew on:

    Top male name of new borns in Netherlands, England, Wales, Berlin, and growing numbers in France.

    Europe has always been the canary in the mine. Will we notice?

  7. Austin Martin says

    We let a bunch of Greeks in this country, and then they all vote Democrat because they’re just here for the cash grab.

    • George Michalopulos says

      Not true. Even when we we’re officially Democrat, we started voting Republican in 1968. Plus, 95% of all immigrants who came to these shores pre-1960 weren’t here for the swag. They’re wasn’t any. You swam ir you sank.

    • Not true Austin Martin. My family both maternal and paternal came to America in 1912 from Mikrasia – Turkey. The majority of both sides all have voted Republican. We assimilated, kept our Orthodox faith proudly and became productive members of our great United States. Here for the “cash grab” you say? No, here for the freedoms that America represents.

  8. Dino Tsortanidis says

    Sorry! Answer to top male name is Muhammad.

  9. Maybe God is giving us an opportunity to share the Gospel. He seems to be bringing non-believers to us. Perhaps the best thing we could do is to start praying for our enemies. Start praying for those who do not know Jesus.

    Maybe God himself is giving us this opportunity to practice discipleship.
    Have you noticed that most of the prayers in our liturgy book are for believers? How much do we pray for people who do not know Jesus. What would happen if all the readers here prayed daily for Ilhan? We will never know until we try. Can we surround hate with love?

    • Constantinos says

      Hi Lina,
      You have heard the expression, ” America- love it or leave it.” Multiculturalism is another name for Cultural Marxism. One of the goals of Cultural Marxism is to eradicate Christianity from the West. For the life of me, I don’t know why aliens who hate America like this stupid Somali are allowed to serve in the US Congress. Only native born Americans should be allowed to serve in our government.
      Multiculturalism leads to civil war, and unrest. Remember, Abraham Lincoln said,” A nation divided against itself cannot stand.” These aliens are destroying our country. I’ll certainly pray for this woman. My prayer is that she go back to Somalia and f#@#k up her own country.
      Our Founding Fathers never intended our once great nation to become a multicultural third world country. Our origins are British. Barring God’s intervention, I don’t see how we can take back our country. At the rate we’re going, pretty soon English will not be the national language. It’s already becoming a bi- lingual nation. I guess so irritated when I call on the phone, and hear a recording in English and Spanish. One other area we must confront right now is this birthright citizenship and this anchor baby nonsense. We’ve got these sluts from South America desperately trying to make it to our country before they give birth. President Trump is right; many nations take advantage of us.

    • Fr John Chagnon says

      Amen.

      • Fr. John Chagnon says

        The amen was for Lina. Perhaps where we see peril God sees opportunity. I wonder what would happen if we used all the time we spend bantering back and forth actually doing God’s work in the world?

        • Constantinos says

          Dear Father Chagnon,
          By implication, you give the impression you did not approve of my post. Personally, I thought it was sublime.
          I’ve got some bad news for you; I have read some of your lectures on the internet, and I like them. In fact, I think they are outstanding. Thank you.

  10. Antiochene Son says

    I would say we are experiencing divine judgment for our national sins. If you read the early chapters of Isaiah, God does this. Overrun by foreigners, ruled over by women and children, all of it.

    The forces promoting all these things must be expelled from this country, and we must all repent like Nineveh. Maybe God will relent and stop the worse things to come. (I believe we will see a major societal collapse before 2040 if nothing changes.)

  11. Francis Frost says

    Christ is risen !

    George, your arguments would carry more weight if they did not depend on fabricated facts and invented history. You wrote:

    “Then there’s Georgia. The late, not-so-great John McCain goaded the poor sap who was the president of Georgia at the time to provoke the Russian Federation. He did and his country is the poorer for it.”

    George, that is completely wrong. Former president Saakashvili was not goaded by the US into anything. He was responding to an armed invasion of his country by the Russian military. The Russians had massed tanks on the border and had been launching missiles attacks on the Georgian villages in South Ossetia for 3 weeks before the start of the August 2008 war.

    Georgia is hardly “poorer for it”. Since the 2008 was, the Georgian economy has grown at an average rate of 6 – 7 % year over year, a rate roughly twice that seen here in the US over the comparable time period. The Georgia government has made extraordinary strides in infrastructure. The entire intercity highway system has been replaced and now meets the standards found in Europe or the US. The Tbilisi skyline has been transformed and the Tbilisi housing market is booming.

    The travel industry is growing 25 % year over year. Due to its mountains and rivers, Georgia is now the mecca for extreme sports and high altitude skiing. When we visited Georgia last summer tourists were everywhere. Tourists are coming primarily from the Arabian peninsula and Russia. There are shawarma restaurants on every corner.

    It was quite a surprise to see the muslims touring Orthodox holy places. Of course, the muslims at least knew how to dress modestly and how to behave respectfully in the churches. When we visited the Jvari monastery in holy Mtskheta, to my surprise a Muslim woman in full niqab was purchasing candles to light in front of the icons! Who knows, it may a miracle of St. Abo. St. Abo was a member of the Muslim invasion in the 9th century lead by Marwan the Ugly. Impressed by the Christians’ faith and fortitude, St. Abo converted, was baptized, then died as a Christian martyr in Tbilisi.

    As for the Ukrainian debacle, well “it ain’t necessarily so”. Despite the full on political campaign by the MP, no-one has broken communion with the Ecumenical Patriarch. Despite Metropolitan Jonah’s hysterical warnings off bloodied babushkas dying on the church steps, the situation in Ukraine has not devolved into violence. Those parishes that transferred to the OCU-CP did so by democratic elections. Some may decry that process; but it is the very same process by which the ROCOR acquired a dozen OCA parishes during the Pennsylvania ‘calendar wars’ of the 1980’s.

    You would do well to check out the Byztex web-site which has posted of a photo taken during the Victory Day celebrations in Kiev on May 9th. Metropolitan Onuphrey and Metropolitan Epiphan exchanged the Paschal greeting in public during that event. In other words, the situation in Ukraine is hardly the ‘debacle’ you describe. The situation in Ukraine will resolve itself just as it did in Estonia. There will remain the UOC-MP for the Russian speaking population side by side with the UCO-CP for Ukrainian speakers and patriots. Kirill will just have to get over it.

    The will be no council convened over Ukraine, the MP is simply bluffing. If such a council were to be called.; the first item on the agenda would be a canonical trial to depose the entire synod of the MP for its own canonical crimes against the Georgian Patriarchate.

    As for your arguments, about “our posterity”, it’s just a little bit silly. It’s simply amusing to see you commit yourself in ancestor worship, particularly when you are worshipping someone else’s ancestors! You seem to have forgotten that the WASP establishment had no use for our Orthodox immigrant ancestors when they arrived here in America.

    • George Michalopulos says

      Francis, regarding Saakashvili (sp?) and his being goaded by John McCain, I can take your assertion that he foolishly provoked the Russians on his own (which would make him a madman) or I can believe the words of well-connected diplomats and Washington insiders instead. If the latter, that would make him a fool.

      I’m going with “B”. There’s no way that the Georgian administration would have followed their then-president over the military cliff unless they had American assurances that all would be well.

      As for Georgia being “poorer for it”, I wasn’t speaking about the economy. I was speaking about the fact that they lost two whole provinces from their nation which have now been annexed to the RF.

      Think of it this way: suppose Alaska and Texas were cleaved off from the US, we’d be poorer for it in much the same way. Or Oregon and Washington (although we wouldn’t miss all the needles and human waste on the streets of two large American cities.)

      Basically, any time a nation loses property because of war, it’s never the same. Syria hasn’t been the same since Israel annexed the Golan Heights back in ’67.

    • Francis Frost: “Saakashvili … was responding to an armed invasion of his country by the Russian military. ”

      On what date and in what place this invasion took place? How did he respond, in what place and on what date/hour?

  12. Beryl Wells Hamilton says

    Statement from Democratic candidate Ilhan Omar

    “A number of baseless rumors have been made recently about my personal life and family. I will say it again here: they are absolutely false and ridiculous.”

    “That said, I will offer clarity and share a difficult part of my personal history that I did not consider relevant in the context of a political campaign, so that we can put these rumors to rest and return to what really matters: how we join together to build a more prosperous and equitable district and state.”

    “In 2002, when I was 19 years old, Ahmed Hirsi (whose name before he received citizenship was Ahmed Aden), the father of my children and love of my life, and I, applied for a marriage license, but we never finalized the application and thus were never legally married. In 2008, we decided to end our relationship in our faith tradition after reaching an impasse in our life together.”

    “I entered into a relationship with a British citizen, Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, and married him legally in 2009. Our relationship ended in 2011 and we divorced in our faith tradition. After that, he moved home to England. I have yet to legally divorce Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, but am in the process of doing so. Insinuations that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi is my brother are absurd and offensive.”

    “Since 2011, I am happy to say that I have reconciled with Ahmed Hirsi, we have married in our faith tradition and are raising our family together. Like all families, we have had our ups and downs but we are proud to have come through it together.”

    “I appreciate the countless messages of support I have received from the people of 60B and beyond who understand how difficult and deeply personal this has been for my family and especially my children. I remain honored to be a part of a campaign that is uniting the diverse voices of our district – long term residents, East African immigrants and students.”

  13. Good All valid criticism of a Person should never stoop to personal inuendo and the like, but stick to facts.

  14. My criticism of Elpidiophoros are based upon where he is, and his life and career and spoken- printed words, up to now. I make no comment on his personal life as have no clue what so ever nor wish to unless anything become public we need to know.
    But obviously I make a general statements given wider situation, that as a public person, we need ro be comfortable about his personal life history for sake of the Church. We can no longer five the benefit of ‘ nothing to know’.
    My Godmother’s son was a deacon and then priest in Uk Greek church, having come from Athens, Greece, under Phanar when i was growing up, and I learnt much ( 1970s).

  15. I meant to say that today we sadly cannot assume that celibate monk means celibate monk. When it does not, the fall out is often catastrophic, not just for those involved, but for the Church as a body.

  16. Francis Frost says

    Christ is risen !

    Once again, George, your ignorance is showing; but I’ll start with Martin first.

    Martin thinks he can score a point with the Tagliavini report. Of course, if one reads beyond the headline, one might discover that “Georgia fired first” only after the Russian ‘peacekeepers’ spent three entire weeks shelling the Georgian villages surrounding Tskhinvali. If you really want to understand the history of the 2008 invasion, you would do well the read the serial expose published by Moscow Times journalist, Yulia Latinyna, in 2008. It is available in English if Martin is not a Russian speaker. Martin might also want to watch the documentary “Uroki Ruskogo” (Russian Lessons) by the Russian filmmakers, Andrei Nekrasov and Olga Konnskaya. It is available on You Tube in 12 segments. Thanks to these Russian journalists, the Russian government’s claim to have invaded Georgia “in defense” is completely exposed for the facile fraud it is.

    Back to you , George. You claim that Georgia ‘“lost” Samechablo (South Ossetia) and Abkhazeti in 2008. That shows your absolute ignorance. The Russians occupied Samchablo in 1991, and seized Abkahzeti in 1192 -1993 in horrific campaigns of ethnic cleansing and outright genocide. The actual goal of the the 2008 invasion was the decapitation of the Georgian government. On the evening of August 8, 2008 Russian television broadcast an announcement that the Georgian government had fallen and the President Saakashvili had “chosen suicide”.

    Those broadcasts show the actual aim of the invasion, which failed. The Russian forces were never able to pass Holy Mtskheta, despite the fact that the Georgian forces were in complete rout. The fact is that the Most Holy Mother of God, Saint Gabriel Urgebadze and the 60,000 martyrs of Tbilisi stood in the Russian’s way and halted their advance. This great miracle will someday be known to all as proof that Georgia is still the ‘sacred lot’ of the Holy Theotokos.

    Georgia is an ancient nation, with 8,000 years of history. George, your ancient Greek ancestors recorded their amazement at Georgian civilization when Greece was still in its “archaic period”. The legend of the Jason and the Quest for the Golden Fleece documents the superior civilization in Aia, now know as Kutaisi, my wife’s home town. The Georgian myth of the fire god , Amiran was translated into Greek as the story of Prometheus, although the Greek version acknowledges the fact that Amiran was chained to Mr. Kazbegi in the Caucasus.

    Georgians do not view the past 25 years of war, as an isolated incident; but rather as a part of the prolonged attempt but Russian imperialists to exterminate an older and greater civilization. Georgians know that the Russians exploited the Treaty of Giorgievsk to kidnap the heirs of King Erekle V and annex Georgia to the Russian empire. They know that the Russian government kidnapped the last Georgian Patriarch and uncanonically abolished the autocephalous Georgian Orthodox Church. They know that the Tsarists looted ancient treasures and defaced sacred temples. They know that the Russians tried to abolish the Georgian language and the Georgian liturgy. They also know that all of this failed.

    The Georgians also know that Mr. Putin’s adventures will also ultimately fail. Patriarch Ilia II has promised us that Georgia “will once more be made whole” His All-Holiness has described the conflict as a spiritual war. He advised prayers and good deeds and the means to defend the nation and end the occupation.

    You should also remember that we have the prophetic warning of St. Seraphim of Sarov sent to Tsar Aleksandr I in 1811: “Georgia is the inheritance of the Most Holy Mother of God. Do not make war on Georgia. If you make war on Georgia, God will make war on Russia, and Russia will be destroyed.” That wise Tsar heeded that warning, but his heirs did not. Tsraist Russian and the Soviet Union both attacked Georgia and both were destroyed. Putin has attacked Georgia and his neo-Soviet empire will also fall. We also have the prophecy of St. Gabriel Urgebadze in 1992: “If the Russians take Abkhazeti, the Mother of God will never forgive them.”

    Despite the last 2 years of Russian histrionics, not one of the autocephalous churches has joined the MP in its schism. Patriarch Kirill’s two attempts to “call a council” failed. In the end the situation in Ukraine will end the same was it did in Estonia, and Kirill will just have to get over it.

    • Francis Frost: “Once again, George, your ignorance is showing; but I’ll start with Martin first. Martin thinks he can score a point with the Tagliavini report.”

      I do not know what is “Tagliavini report” and I do not care. I know what happened, because I followed the events every couple hours, as they were unraveling, using various sources and also parsing the contradictions in the MSM.

      You seem to be brainwashed.

      “Georgia is an ancient nation, with 8,000 years of history. ”

      Less than 4000 years. Do not believe nationalist false myths.

  17. George Michalopulos says

    Yet another reason why multiculturalism will be the doom of the West:

    https://youtu.be/KHXCmEWxMY4