Why Gay “Marriage” Has to Be Fought: an Analysis by GeorgeS

[Editor’s Note:  As has become our custom here at Monomakhos that every now and then we reserve the right to create a post from a comment from one of our readers.  We believe this recent comment from GeorgeS deserves such attention.  It was written in response to the recent disastrous decision by Pope Francis and what it means for the Orthodox Church.  (This is the second one we’ve posted from him.)  We hope you enjoy it.] 

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Unfortunately we have enough Orthodox Christians who are trying very hard to postpone the inevitable confrontation by finding various loopholes in gov’t-church relations, and I’ve seen and heard this in the Greek Archdiocese. Aside from the ‘church and state’ arguments we also often hear ‘this isn’t the sword you want to die on’.

Mitsotakis in Greece has already pledged to make gay marriage happen, and it’s the first time an Orthodox country will be forced to deal with this head on. As the Greek left is socially liberal (not so much the case with ex-Soviet bloc countries where the left had usually been socially conservative), it makes it easier to push such legislation through the Greeks esp. given Bartholomew’s accommodator stance and the close state-church ties in Greece.

It is very possibly for this reason that Ieronymos has been hinting at retirement for a long time: he knew this issue was coming down the pike and he doesn’t want to deal with it. Just like he did with the Ukraine issue where he raised his hands in resignation and let the Phanariotes have their way.

The pattern is always predictably the same: first adoption, then civil union, then marriage. You can never just leave it at any one of those stages, the LGBT lobby always insists on going all the way. Otherwise to them it’s like having partial segregation: politically unacceptable.

And as long as the EU institutions are whole, this WILL get pushed through the rest of the Orthodox EU countries because those who hold the purse strings on direct EU funding (that mandatory drug that all EU governments get hooked on) will not have it any other way.

So the Cypriot archbishop can engage in continued can-kicking exercises, but we already see that in the end nobody has the cojones to confront the euroatlantic demon. Hence we loop back to the ‘sword to die on’ problem: the devil never honors bargains. Just watch the John Luvitz SNL skit ‘The People’s Court’ on YouTube… that’s all you need to know.

Comments

  1. Thank you George and Gail! On top of reading the editorial I appreciate the opportunity to opine and exchange ideas on this wonderful blog.

    As a P.S. I also hope enough of you watch the Lovitz SNL skit, back when SNL was worth watching…

  2. Anonymous II says

    Shock Veto: Ohio’s RINO Governor Nukes GOP Bill Banning Sex Changes For Children

    Republican’ Gov. Mike DeWine of Ohio stunned state Republicans on Friday, vetoing a bill that would ban doctors from performing sex-changes on children, and would bar biological males from competing in women’s sports.

    See: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shock-veto-ohios-rino-governor-nukes-gop-bill-banning-sex-changes-children

    • I think we may have reached the point where too far is “too far” for every sane person. With some things we can just look the other way. This isn’t one of them.

  3. From what I understand, gay marriage will be deliberated in Greece until 2027 (I could be wrong but that’s what I thought)

    At this point who even knows what Greece, and indeed the whole of Europe, will look like at that point.

    We should pray to God that the Russia-Ukraine war has spurred the downfall of the EU.

    • From https://greekreporter.com/2023/12/22/greece-legalize-same-sex-marriage-defying-orthodox-church/

      Government spokesperson, Pavlos Marinakis says the law will be introduced in parliament during the current session, which ends in 2027.

      In July, PM Kyriakos Mitsotakis announced his intention to legalize same-sex marriage during his second term in office, declaring that “same-sex marriage will happen at some point, and it’s part of our strategy.”

      He went on to emphasize that “Greek society is much more ready and mature.”

      There are more discouraging things to read there, but what is upsetting is that Mitsotakis and his party represents the so called ‘right’ in Greece. The left is even worse in this regard, and they have a lot of seats as well. So this is practically guaranteed to pass, unfortunately.

      Heartbreaking, as I know many Greeks who are going to be very disappointed by this (I gather those are the Greeks whom Mitsotakis would characterize as ‘immature’). The EU has succeeded in creating a new identity, the so called ‘European’, much as in its day the Soviet Union created the ‘homosovieticus’ (Soviet person).

      Back here on the home front we already see how many in the GOP have given up on the gay marriage thing, they consider it settled law. This trend is everywhere in the euroatlantic world.

      • George Michalopulos says

        God is not mocked. That’s why all these refugees are flooding Europe. Because it is they who will replace the Europeans.

        Sad. But what are you going to do in the face of such obstinacy? The Europeans are hell-bend on committing cultural suicide.

        • I am also saddened by the fact that all of this social sodomy runs against the principles of Hellenism dating back to ancient times. However many an ‘anthropologist’ who makes a big deal out of some fragments of homosexual pottery or ‘historian’ who assigns gaydom to every second visible figure, there are the facts that speak of homosexuality as being punishable by death in Ancient Greece.

          Unfortunately, some Greeks take the position that “You can’t have Europe without the Greeks”, but the European Union as a concept takes the worst of Europe and packages it into a secularist trans-national dictatorship. There is as big a difference from the idea of European and the EU as there is between Russian and Soviet. This degradation happened gradually over the decades, and as it became more obvious the establishment had already become too integrated to break free and hence we see self-justification and mental gymnastics.

          We have to ask ourselves how do we define Europe, because Europe throughout history has been full of contradictory forces. Let’s never forget that both Christian conservatism and communism are ‘European’. The myth of a harmonized ideological European consensus is just that.

          • ‘However many an ‘anthropologist’ who makes a big deal out of some fragments of homosexual pottery or ‘historian’ who assigns gaydom to every second visible figure, there are the facts that speak of homosexuality as being punishable by death in Ancient Greece.’

            Precisely, George; and in a similar vein let us imagine
            that all that remains to be found of 1930’s Europe
            are a few photographs of some of the wilder excesses
            practised in Christopher Isherwood’s Weimar Berlin.

            What would the archaeologists think?

      • “The EU has succeeded in creating a new identity, the so called ‘European’.”

        This is an interesting statement. I have the following comments to make:

        First, I believe all societies, all cultures, have some sort of “elite,” in the sense of people who create and maintain the culture or the society, people like religious leaders, artists, military leaders, the educators, and so forth. The “elite” in this sense are not necessarily the wealthy.

        Second, to the extent a society has what I would call a “good” elite, its elite will be loyal to that society and as much shaped by it as it acts to shape it. This kind of elite will draw its inspiration from its society’s traditions and customs and religious faith, and while it may create something new, that new thing will be faithful to the culture’s or society’s underlying ethos.

        Third, today’s western “elites” are different. They are not loyal to the cultures or societies over which they rule. They are loyal, instead, to a transnational elite that is the product of a different type of upbringing and socialization. They are more and more part of an “elite” for whom cultural and social boundaries no longer matter, boundaries which they in fact despise. They are socialized by attending “elite” schools in the west, especially places like Harvard and other Ivy League institutions. They are further shaped and molded by involvement with entities such as the WEF’s “Young Global Leaders,”* or become involved with the WEF’s “Global Leaders Forum.”

        You mention Mitsotakis. It should come as no surprise that he has been involved with the Global Leaders Forum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA77DCVVTMM. I think his loyalty is to the transnational elite and to its objectives, objectives which are not one that are necessarily consistent with the societal, cultural, and religious values of the country which he governs. But if there is a disconnect in Europe between the members of this new elite and the populace at large, the same disconnect appears to be increasingly obvious in the U.S. and Canada, among other places.

        In any event, if a new identity has been created, it is one to be found among the “elite” and not so much among regular people.

        *See, for example, https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/03/meet-the-2021-class-of-young-global-leaders/

  4. A CatholicAfrican bishop speaks to his diocese members against the Pope’s blessing of homosexual couples.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/african-bishop-denounces-heresy-delivered-as-christmas-gift/

    I denounce the Pope’s blessing. Man’s law must bow to God’s law. Christ told us we would suffer. So be it. Turn thine eyes away from wickedness.

  5. 10 Predictions 2024

    https://leohohmann.com/2023/12/29/10-predictions-for-2024-get-ready-for-tough-times-with-war-and-economic-collapse-on-the-horizon/#more-17058

    Continued apostasy of the church in fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and increasing persecution of the true Church. The pope and his equivalents in the Protestant world will continue to usher in false doctrines and statements meant to confuse, divide, demoralize and destroy the church. If possible, even the elect will be deceived. “Forbidden blessings,” aka demonic blessings for forbidden relationships, will bring great reproach to the name of Jesus Christ, which is what Bergoglio and others have been doing already for several years. They are sowing division and confusion among the flock in the Catholic Church, and likewise in the Protestant Church. Like in China, most of the true believers will break away into home churches.

    Continued ramping up of the government-corporate propaganda campaign to push fear of viruses and sickness. This is all geared toward the purposeful effort to inject human beings with more mRNA “vaccines.” All vaccines will become mRNA. Once man discovered he can hack into and change human genetics, it opened up a whole new playing field for Satan to continue his thousands of years’ effort to destroy the seed of Adam. Satan knows his ultimate destination is the Lake of Fire and he’s hoping to take as many humans there with him. If he can change the genetic makeup to the extent that it destroys the human ability to connect with his/her Creator and exercise free will, that would be counted among his greatest achievements. I don’t think it will happen. Already, vast numbers of people have awakened to the fact that this new generation of vaccines are causing more death and physical harm than they are preventing.

  6. Hilber Nelson says

    If the wokification of the Catholic Church is any indication of what we Orthodox will be facing in 2024, Pope Francis’ firing of conservative Bishop Strickland of Texas for upholding the Church’s teaching serves as an example of what brave Orthodox clergy, and laity, will be in for. The question is, will clergy (paid employees of their archdiocese) be willing to risk their jobs for defending the faith? And will laity be willing to lose their priest? Few Catholic bishops publicly denounced the pope’s actions, from what I read. But before we get too critical of Catholics, let’s look no further than the silence screaming from our parishes on this issue and the myriad of other woke attacks on our faith and freedoms. Such dereliction of duty by our clergy is costing us dearly, and leaves families and youth to navigate the woke madness on their own. By their silence, our clergy are presenting a non-sacrificial, wimpy, people pleasing gospel. This from the Church that commemorates the saints and martyrs. Every day.

    • B I N G O ! If Covid revealed anything, it was the absolute lack of courage displayed by (almost) every Bishop and most priests in North America. People’s memories aren’t that short. That was a test and most parishes failed (under the guise of obedience). But God, being Good, allows retakes. I don’t know what is coming but something is heading our way to RE-test our courage and faithfulness to the teachings of the Fathers and the Holy Scriptures. Hopefully, Covid was a lesson learned but time will tell. There is such a thing as Blessed Disobedience.

      • Fr David, I too, have the same intuition regarding the episcopal response to COVID as do you. (Peronally, I think it was a beta-test to see how easily the DS could fool the people but that’s a story for another day.)
        In any event, I certainly hope you’re right, that God is going to allow us a “retake,” which this time we’ll pass.

        Then again, we can’t put it on all the bishops. The laity deserve a share of the blame as well. If nothing else, they should have pushed back. Michael Savage coined the term “sheeple.”

        Gail and I saw an example of that first hand when we went to Trader Joe’s three years ago to pick up some groceries. By that time, we were both skeptical (if not adamantly opposed) to the whole covidian religion. Anyway, as we pulled into the parking lot, we saw a line of several dozen people circling the building, each of them standing six feet apart. It was Sunday after church and these were nicely-dressed, well-to-do people (Trader Joe’s demographic), standing like kindergartners because they wanted to signal their virtue. The line was barely moving. I said “screw it, let’s go to Reasor’s” (another grocery store).

        Point being, there were hundreds of examples in Orthodox churches nationwide of the laymen rolling over like puppies getting their bellies tickled.

      • MomofToddler says

        Thank you for this post, very very much.

        However, I think some people are exhibiting short memories. Just like the covid hysteria ramped up, I think there was another “hysteria” causing a ramp down. People wanted normalcy so bad they are suppressing memories of what happened, and some people went through the whole thing largely apathetic. It shocks me still that there was a near global persecution of people that would not take the you-know-what and hardly anyone will talk about it. It seriously just stopped happening like 12-18 months ago?!

        We also think something is coming….

    • Basil Galmukov says

      Make no mistake… Clear Statements Of Scripture Are Not To Be Debated.
      In scripture homosexual behavior is not blessed by God and specifically prohibited: “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination” (Leviticus 18: 22); and from St. Paul: “… because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men … ” (Romans 1:25-27).

  7. “gay marriage will be deliberated in Greece until 2027”

    Man, what the heck is there to deliberate for 3-4 more years ?!?

    It’s not a difficult question…. what is difficult are simply the realities involved in remaining faithful to Christ, and in publicly stating truths that some may not want to hear.

    That’s why good leadership is hard – many times leaders need to state realities that people don’t want to hear and tell people that we must travel a path that some may not (at the current time) want to travel.

    Christ never uttered “Stay with me until it is difficult, then abandon Me.”

    Pretty much all of the western Churches have followed the path of “toxic compassion” on gay marriage, women’s ordination, trans stuff – you name it – unfortunately they’ve taken positions that are easiest in the moment under the guise of helping some folks not “feel bad,” while tucking their tail between their legs and trying to avoid dealing with far more serious realities. This is classic Toxic Compassion.

    “The truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do. The hard part is doing it.” – said someone far more brave than me.

    • Perhaps, THIS is part of the RE-take. It will be interesting to see how we do on this test as the social pressure to compromise increases.

    • “Man, what the heck is there to deliberate for 3-4 more years ?!?”

      As you said, nothing. It is simply buying time for more ‘dialogue’ – the modernist progressive term for relentlessly softening up the opposition.

  8. Rod Dreher interviews Metropolitan Hilarion

    FIRST REACTION: SHOCK! – Orthodox Bishop on
    the same-sex ‘blessings’ in the Roman Catholic Church

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTh9m9DR6WI

    [Video – 43:49]

    ‘ On Dec.18, 2023, the Vatican Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith released a Declaration entitled “Fiducia Supplicans”, with the approval of Pope Francis. The new Declaration discusses “the possibility of blessing couples in irregular situations and same-sex couples.”

    In his conversation with Rod Dreher, Metropolitian Hilarion of Budapest and Hungary shares his thoughts on the recent developments in the Roman Catholic Church. ‘

    As well as the homosexuality issue,
    Authority in the Church is discussed.

    • Joseph Lipper says

      Thank you for this. It was good to hear Metropolitan Hilarion’s response to “Fiducia Supplicans”, as he was the one who went on record as saying the Russian Church agreed with the Vatican on “same-sex blessings” back in 2021.

      • Are you sure, Joseph? If you’ve already posted it, please forgive me. I’ve had some health issues and haven’t kept up with it. But if you could provide it, I would be grateful.

        • George Michalopulos says

          Please do so. I certainly don’t remember Alfeyev doing so. If he did, then we’ll take him to task as well.

        • Joseph Lipper says

          “Russia’s Orthodox church has backed the mid-March declaration by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, barring the blessing of same-sex unions.”

          https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/14011/russian-church-backs-vatican-on-same-sex-blessings

          Of course, at the time Metropolitan Hilarion was the head of the MP’s DECR. He no longer holds that position.

          So, I would still expect to hear an official response on “Fiducia Supplicans” from the Moscow Patriarchate, especially since they have previously weighed in
          on the Vatican’s statements.

          • No, Joseph. Weird translation but the intent is made crystal clear.

            • Joseph Lipper says

              Gail, the 2021 statement from the Vatican was against same-sex unions. Metropolitan Hilarion, as the head of the MP’s DECR, publicly backed the Vatican on this, going on record that he backed the Vatican on “same-sex blessings”, which is to say that neither the Vatican nor the Moscow Patriarchate blessed them.

              The more recent statement from 2023, Fiducia Supplicans, obviously creates some confusion on the matter. Since the Moscow Patriarchate weighed in on the matter back in 2021, I would expect them to respond to the more recent statement also.

            • George Michalopulos says

              Joseph, I believe you are incorrect. Back then, the ROC agreed with the RCC (when the latter had not gone off the rails).

              • Joseph Lipper says

                That’s what I’m saying. The point is that the Moscow Patriarchate was publicly commenting in agreement on the 2021 statement from the Vatican, but what does the MP have to say about the recent statement from last month?

                Apart from the Bishop of Budapest, I have only heard crickets.

      • The way that is worded is a little misleading, Joseph. Metropolitan Hilarion simply stated that he agreed with the Vatican that blessings for a “same sex union” can not be given, but the **individuals** can be blessed.

        https://www.pravmir.com/metropolitan-hilarion-the-church-does-not-bless-same-sex-unions-because-this-is-a-sinful-way-of-life/

        This is also quite different than the latest vatican document, which permits blessings for same sex **couples** while still rejecting the blessings for same sex unions. Blessing a “couple” but not their union… Talk about mental gymnastics!

        Fr Josiah Trenham’s latest discourse on “forbidden blessings” help us see the Orthodox approach to blessings.

      • In 2021, unless I am much mistaken,
        the Vatican did not agree with same-sex blessings;
        which was (and is) in accord with the Russian Church.
        It is, I believe, the Vatican that has changed since then.

        • What they did was open up the synodal process to hundreds of people with their own idea of what a synod is. They had just kids (20-something) the first synod out the gate, whose primary interest, as I recall, was LGBTQ.

          If the effort was a failure, they would be stuck with the primacy issue. If it succeeded, they would be stuck with the primacy issue. Either way. – Any sane person could have told Francis (probably did), that to be more like the Orthodox Church, they needed fewer numbers on a synod. A synod can only be a handful of people and even fewer than that if one of two of them have a vested interest in the outcome upon which they don’t agree.

          Not 340 people who want to tackle different aspects of ‘all things synodal,’

          They wanted to define it in poetic terms and set up the framework going forward, which meant establishing new ministries for the laity, increasing lay involvement in decision-making, creating processes to evaluate bishops’ performance of their ministry, change the way the Church discerns ‘controversial’ issues, and expand the footprint of synodal assemblies going forward.”

          What does any of this have to do with” a” synod? In other words, it has everything to do with the process, which we take for granted because we follow the same process we’ve always followed. Works for us. However, they settled on 1,150 proposed amendments, basically rewriting what it means to be Catholic and replacing their framework with words, words, and more words! Very little little consensus to put much into action. Women’s access to the diaconate, the LGBTQ issue, and how to throw a synod now that they’ve been through the process.

          Too many cooks in the kitchen.

  9. Metropolitan Symeon Against Gay Marriage
    and Adoption: “Yes, We Are Conservative!!”

    https://www.helleniscope.com/2023/12/31/metropolitan-symeon-against-gay-marriage-and-adoption-yes-we-are-conservative/

    ‘ “Leave aside the “Americanisms”! Here is Greece! They came up with (novel) theories, no one dares to say a word, and they are labeled “homophobic”… Where did you find that, huh? Where did you find it?

    EDITOR’S NOTE (Nick Stamatakis). Metropolitan Simeon of Fthiotis (Central Greece) is an outspoken leader of the Church of Greece, said to be among the few who are ready to succeed AB Ieronymos. A few days ago, right after the Church of Greece ultimately rejected any support for gay marriage and adoption, he took the lead and reminded all of us of the late AB Christodoulos… With a fiery speech that became viral and galvanized all Orthodox people in Greece and beyond, he put the “progressives” in their rightful place – in the marginal far left where they belong… In the minority of politics and society…

    The dynamism in the speech of the Metropolitan of Fthiotis was essentially an outburst in favor of the family and traditions and the cohesive role of the Church in society. Symeon said in a firm tone what AB Ieronymos was afraid to say, that “we do not reject anyone, we respect everyone, but we also demand that they respect us. And don’t make fun of us. We demand that they respect us.” …
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWMx99WTNDY&t=37s

    BASIC POINTS OF HIS SPEECH

    “We believe in the traditional Greek Orthodox family, as we learned it and as it is and as it will be. As life itself wants, as nature itself prescribes, the way we come into the world. Some father and some mother loved each other so that we could come into the world.”
    “We believe in this family, we support this family, and if someone considers us conservative, well, yes, that’s the kind of society we want. Yes, we’re conservative, hey! What do you want? Rejoice in your progress, in the darkness of your progress!”
    “We are conservative and we will remain conservative. Yes, we want to be conservative. We don’t care if you like it and if it works for you. We will support this family, loving every person, without exception.”
    “We don’t reject anyone. We respect everyone, but we also demand that they respect us. And don’t make fun of us. That’s enough! Enough! We demand to be respected. To respect our father and our mother, the monuments of our parents”.
    “Leave aside the “Americanisms”! Here is Greece! They came up with (novel) theories, no one dares to say a word, and they are labeled “homophobic”… Where did you find that, huh? Where did you find it? Come on, you’ve blinded us with your false progress! We’ve seen where humanity is headed.”
    “We will remain standing, beloved and united, traditional, progressive, conservative, Greek optimists, with hope and with strength. Don’t be afraid. Happy and blessed Holidays!” ‘

    …and he did mention Christmas [Χριστούγεννα]

  10. Franciscan University professor calls for Pope Francis
    to resign following homosexual ‘blessings’ text

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/franciscan-university-pope-francis-resign/?utm_source=featured_news&utm_campaign=usa

    Addressing Pope Francis, Prof. Regis Martin urged,
    ‘Resign the Office that has become so tortuous to occupy;
    then go off to the nearest monastery for a life of prayer and penance.’

    ‘ (LifeSiteNews) — A professor of theology at Franciscan University of Steubenville has called for the resignation of Pope Francis following the publication of Fiducia Supplicans, a declaration that has created controversy, confusion, and scandal within the Roman Catholic Church.

    Addressing Pope Francis, Professor Regis Martin urged, “Resign the Office that has become so tortuous to occupy; then go off to the nearest monastery for a life of prayer and penance.”

    “There is zero likelihood of this happening, by the way. So, why do I bother? Isn’t it a bit like spitting in the wind? Or trying to square the circle?” wondered Martin in his searing commentary published in Crisis Magazine.

    “I do it because the Gospel demands it,” answered Martin, who explained:

    While I am no St. Paul, neither am I averse to paraphrasing him. Who, in his Letter to the Galatians (2:14), had the cheek to call out St. Peter himself, the first Pope, on a point of doctrine no less. When a man does not walk upright, when he fails to be straightforward, there is no question but that someone needs to tell him. So Paul told Peter, admonishing him to his face in Antioch. And so, with utmost respect, one really must summon the courage to tell the Pope.

    Martin said that he would tell the Pope “That he’s all wet. That the declaration signed and delivered by him is flat out wrong.”

    However far Pope Francis may wish to extend the reach of his vaunted “pastoral vision,” it can never encompass the blessing of sin. Either adultery and sodomy are wrong, and those who engage in such practices are committing serious sin and in need of repentance; or there is nothing wrong or untoward about either, and no priest should stand in the way of those who come forward to have their unions blest.

    That way lies madness. And the Church, which has always stood for sanity, may have to ask the Pope to step down in order to make things sane again.

    Professor Martin’s call for “heads to roll” at the Vatican – including the papal noggin – has come following a tsunami of opposition from prelates, bishops conferences, priests and priest associations, and conservative Catholic commentators.

    On December 18, Pope Francis and Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández issued Fiducia Supplicans, purportedly allowing “blessings for couples in irregular situations and for couples of the same sex” in contradiction to the unchangeable Catholic teaching that the Church cannot bless sinful relationships.

    The text seeks to open the door officially for Catholic clergy to provide “blessings” for sodomitic and adulterous couples in opposition to constant Catholic teaching and Sacred Scripture. ‘

    …and this demonstrates the silliness of Papal Infallibility!

  11. Italian priest struck off for calling Francis an ‘anti-pope usurper’
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/03/italian-priest-struck-off-for-calling-francis-an-anti-pope-usurper

    Priest in Tuscany compares Francis unfavourably with Pope Benedict in New Year’s Eve

    ‘ An Italian priest has been struck off after calling Pope Francis an “anti-pope usurper” in his New Year’s Eve homily.

    Father Ramon Guidetti’s speech to the congregation at St Ranieri church in Guasticce, a hamlet in the Tuscan province of Livorno, was a tribute marking the first anniversary of the death of Francis’s predecessor Benedict XVI.

    In a video of the homily, which lasted more than 20 minutes and was shared online, Guidetti refers to the Argentinian pontiff – whose former name is Jorge Mario Bergoglio – as simply “Mr Bergoglio”, before describing him as “a Jesuit Freemason linked to world powers, an anti-pope usurper”.

    Guidetti went on to say that Francis had a “cadaverous gaze, into nothingness”, unlike “good Benedict”.

    He was reportedly applauded by some of his flock. His excommunication, however, came swiftly. Simone Giusti, the bishop of Livorno, issued a decree saying Guidetti had “publicly committed an act of a schismatic nature” and ordered him to be “removed from the office of parish priest of St Ranieri in Guasticce”. The bishop warned other priests “not to participate in any of his celebrations or other cult practices” as that would incur “the very serious penalty of excommunication”.

    Guidetti, who was known locally to have made previous anti-Francis remarks, said he was proud to have been excommunicated, adding it was “a mark of pride to be out of this church, which is a tyranny”.

    “I am calm,” he told Radio Domina Nostra, a radio show hosted by Alessandro Minutella, another priest who was excommunicated after attacking Pope Francis. “But astonished at the speed at which the guillotine came down. I will frame the decree and hang it on the wall – it will be something I will boast about.”

    Francis was elected pope after Benedict resigned in March 2013.

    His papacy has been embraced by progressives, but he has endured battles with a deeply conservative faction of the church, who are irked by the attention he has given to issues such as social inequality, the climate crisis and refugees. In December, he approved a ruling allowing priests to bless unmarried and same-sex couples in a significant change of position for the Catholic church.

    Some of the pontiff’s detractors believe his appointment was invalid because of Benedict’s resignation.

    Francis has been blighted by ill health in recent years, and has often alluded to his own future resignation. When asked about his health in an interview in September, he quipped: “Still alive … although some want me dead.” ‘

    Louis MacNeice [Bagpipe Music]:

    The glass is falling hour by hour, the glass will fall for ever,
    But if you break the bloody glass you won’t hold up the weather.

  12. BOOK RECOMMENDATION: HIGHLY recommend to most or all people who are sympathic to Monomokhos…..to read “LETTER TO THE AMERICAN CHURCH,” by ERIC METAXAS. If anyone subscribes to Audible, it’s FREE. Otherwise it’s also available as Kindle, Hardcover and Audio CD. “In an earnest and searing wake up call, (Eric Metaxis) warns of the haunting similarities between today’s American church and the German church of the 1930’s. Echoing Bonhoeffer’s prophetic call, Metaxis exhorts his fellow Christians to repent of their silence in the face of evil before it’s too late.” I consider this a MUST READ. (Print length: 159 pages). It has a couple of sections which are influenced by Protestant theology. But NO MATTER. Its main principles are relevant to all of us!

    “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. God will not hold us guiltless.”

    I have previously read his outstanding book, “Bonhoeffer” as well.

    You also might note that Ancient Faith is starting a new “series” that it just announced today – “A New Era for Ancient Faith Today Live: In-depth Documentaries on Tough Issues.” The first one is January 30 “the hotly debated and complex issue of deaconesses.”

    “A series of in depth audio documentaries will be presented on the show at least 6 times during the year and perhaps more! These documentaries will address the tough issues facing the Orthodox Church today, issues that are often fought over on social media but deserve a more calm and ironic exploration.”

    I dont think Ancient Faith will let us down…..

  13. Joseph Lipper says

    For Orthodox Christians, it is forbidden to choose a civil union, even between a man and a woman. That’s where the battle begins.

    Once you have the legalization of civil unions (and mostly those are going to be heterosexual couples), then it becomes an issue of whether or not those in civil unions should legally be allowed to adopt children.

    Well, the Orthodox Church rejects civil unions and does not bless even heterosexual couples in a civil union to adopt children.

    • Yes and no. Here they would prefer you take a blessing from your bishop and be civilly married first. But to do that, you have to leave the Church for getting married outside the Church. You then must serve a penance to come back into the Church you never wanted to leave in the first place. (Not all the bishops see it this way. No one should have to choose between their Church and leaving the Church. If I had to choose, I would choose the Church.) Talking about second marriages.

      • Joseph Lipper says

        Gail, I personally know about rare instances of Orthodox priests recommending civil unions to couples to satisfy immigration law, such as when an engagement is endangered by deportation, and it is simply not possible, for whatever reason, to have a wedding in the Church that meets the deportation deadline. The obvious intent in those circumstances, though, is to have a wedding in the Church as soon as possible.

        As you point out, though, for an Orthodox Christian to seek out a secularized civil union, they are leaving the Church. Can they be received back in the Church and keep their union intact? Sometimes, but not always. It depends:

        https://www.goarch.org/the-holy-great-council/-/asset_publisher/neSb2bY483kZ/content/the-sacrament-of-marriage-and-its-impediments

        “A civil marriage between a man and a woman registered in accordance with the law lacks sacramental character since it is a simple legalized cohabitation recognized by the State, different from a marriage blessed by God and the Church.

        “The Church does not allow for her members to contract same-sex unions or any other form of cohabitation apart from marriage. The Church exerts all possible pastoral efforts to help her members who enter into such unions understand the true meaning of repentance and love as blessed by the Church. The grave consequences brought about by this crisis of the institutions of marriage and the family are manifested in the frightening increase in the number of divorces, abortions, and other problems of family life. These consequences constitute a great challenge to the mission of the Church in the modern world, which is why the shepherds of the Church are obligated to make every possible effort to address these problems. The Orthodox Church lovingly invites her children and all people of good will to defend this fidelity to the sacredness of the family.”

  14. Here is the latest from Dr Taylor Marshall on Cardinal Fernandez:

    Vatican Scandal Exposed: Did Cardinal have a Secret Sex Book?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5koA9kLuROs&t=8s

    [Video – 40:10]

    ‘ Argentine insiders have discovered and made public a hidden away 1998 book containing graphic and gravely immoral chapters by Victor Manuel Cardinal Fernández – the Pope’s ghost writer and author of the recent Vatican document encouraging the blessing of same sex couples. ‘

    One of the on-site commenters wrote the following:

    @luisbergantino1207
    1 day ago
    ‘ I was a candidate to the priesthood with two dioceses and in one of them, I found that seminarians could see Rated C movies (nude actor and actress simulating that they are having sex) and in the other, I found homosexual pornography in the rectory where I and other seminarians were serving. It’ll difficult to explain the level of persecution, mockery and attacks that I was subjected to because of my prayer life (according to them I prayed too much) and because I stood up and left whenever they were watching a Rated C movie. Then I went to a seminary where the rector was teaching things opposed to the teachings of the Church and then I realized that the Church had been highjacked and that extreme Liberal priests were in positions of authority everywhere in the Church. But now with Amoris Laetitia and Fiducia Supplicans, from all the way up in the hierarchy of the Church we are being taught things against the 2,000+ year Magisterium of the Church. In the diocese where I’m currently living the bishop already approved the blessing of same-sex couples and in several parishes I’ve heard priests defending the non-sense by saying things like if the new pope teaches something different than previous popes, we have to obey him because he’s the pope now (!!!???) And, of course, lay people without any real formation, can’t understand that what they are saying is that truth can change with time, that what was true before is no longer true and that now we have a new truth that needs to be revealed and taught.They also don’t understand that when a priest says that we must obey the new pope when he teaches something opposed to the teaching of a previous pope, what he’s saying is that we need to disobey that other pope and the Magisterium of the Church in order to obey this new pope. This whole thing is really diabolical. ‘

    I can’t satirise this. It’s like as Tom Lehrer said
    when Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize:
    “Satire is dead.”