To Err on the Side of Caution

When you’re in the middle of a pandemic, information comes quickly and it is not always easy to verify.  However, when something comes in that would require a minor change in your day to day life, possibly SAVING YOUR LIFE, I would be want not to share it.

Last week, Gail was warned by one of her physicians not to take Ibuprofen or Advil during the crisis, as it lowers immunity.  There are other physicians in the news who have raised similar concerns.  

Today, Gail received the attached audio from one of her Orthodox FB friends, Laurice Haddad.  Laurice comes from a family full of physicians.  She sent a clip that seems to support what Gail heard from her own physician with even more reason to avoid Ibuprofen.  To our knowledge, it has not been widely reported.  

In Vienna, it was rumored that there is a strong link between the deaths from coronavirus and Ibuprofen, possibly jump starting it into pneumonia.  We’re talking 1:1.  Admittedly, the sample is small.  At the time, Vienna had only 960 confirmed cases to date, with 16 confirmed deaths, but because this information seemingly lines up with what physicians are seeing here in our country, it might be a connection worth paying attention to.

For the time being, it may be wise to avoid Ibuprofen, Advil, Motrin, and possibly other NSAIDs until further information is available.  I’m not in a position to argue with readers about whether or not this is sound medical advice, and I am not offering it as such.  I’m just putting it out there so you can decide.  

I have attached the audio. I’ll let you decide.  



  1. Joseph Lipper says

    “His Grace Bishop Multin of Valjevo of the Serbian Orthodox Church, who recently tested positive for the coronavirus, reposed in the Lord last night, March 29.

    “With great sadness and faith in the Resurrection in the Kingdom of Heaven, we inform the public that last night, our dear spiritual father, the Most Reverend Bishop Milutin of Valjevo, reposed at the Dragiša Mišović Clinical Hospital Center of Belgrade, after a short illness caused by the coronavirus,” the Valjevo Diocese reports.

    “The diocese had announced that Bp. Milutin was sick with virus just four days ago. Two other clergy of the diocese have also tested positive. The  statement at that time emphasized that His Grace had adhered to the measures of self-isolation accompanying the state of emergency.  May his memory be eternal!”


  2. Advil is usually my choice for fevers, aches, headaches, etc….it works wonders for me….but I would certainly switch to Tylenol to be on the safe side (even though it is much less effective for me).

    • George Michalopulos says

      Unless you have problems with your liver, I highly recommend Tylenol for ordinary aches and pains. (It’s also easy on the digestive system.)

  3. George Michalopulos says

    Yet another of the myriad reasons why I believe that Obama was sent by the Lord to chastise us:

    Good ole’ ‘Bamster: always dropping the ball whenever the opportunity arose.

    • GSV Death and Gravity says

      So, if I’m following this train of thought, [Editor Note: Omitted due to violation of blog rules.] it wasn’t the Obama administration that let maintenance contracts expire on ventilators in the strategic stockpile:

      • GSV Death and Gravity says

        Fair enough, I shall make one minor edit to my previous text:

        So, if I’m following this train of thought, it is as if Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart bought a house and moved in. When he did so, the water heater in the basement was rusty and appeared to have a slow leak. Except he didn’t do anything about it. Three years later when it ruptured causing massive damage in the basement he says the previous owner is to blame.

        Oh, and for the past several years, even before buying the house, he was proclaiming to all around him that he was a pro at home ownership and maintenance, better qualified than general contractors or property managers.

        Of course, even these attempts to analogize have limits, (see remainder of my previous post)

      • Gail Michalopulos says

        George posted an article about how Obama did not order enough respirators. The article you posted had to do with a maintenance agreement, or lack thereof.

        I’ve met Tom Leonard! A long time ago. At one time he was the President of Medical Systems at CareFusion. In 2014, CareFusion violated the False Claims Act by promoting the sale of a drug that was not approved by the FDA. For those who don’t know, the False Claims Act “applies to any person who knowingly submits a false claim to the government or causes another to submit a false claim to the government or knowingly makes a false record or statement to get a false claim paid by the government”. The DoJ reached a USD $40.1 million settlement with the company. – Not saying Tom had anything to do with it. I just remember reading about the company in the news.

        The Strategic National Stockpile is managed by the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) within the United States Department of Health and Human Services.

        Tom purportedly said to the NY Times, “We still have that first tranche of ventilators, although we’re accelerating the work to get them deployable, . . . “We haven’t seen or touched or had anything to do with the ones that have already been deployed to date.” That does not mean the equipment that was deployed to CA was not properly maintained under an agreement with someone else. It is pretty common when you’re ordering equipment that some of it will fail. Before you deploy it, you always test it for just this reason.

        Should Health and Human Services have allow a ventilator maintenance agreement to lapse, if that was indeed the case? Of course not and, frankly, it would surprise me if that’s what happened. It’s unusual for a company like Agiliti to have equipment waiting to be maintained, but that wasn’t the equipment deployed, as Tom made clear.

        Maintenance of equipment is not something that would be under the purview of the President of the United States. If the governors are finding themselves “very short,” it is because they either didn’t act soon enough or they couldn’t have predicted their need. I know for a fact that it isn’t the latter. They knew that a pandemic was possible (likely, even) and they knew what equipment would be needed and in short supply. Look up Event 201. Now they’re demanding X number of ventilators and are unhappy they aren’t getting them. The stockpiles are just not large enough to give everyone what they want which a physician, who participates on one of the task forces, confirm for George and me last week.

        It would be like failing to stock enough food for your family when you know a hurricane is approaching and then complaining that a local Food Bank doesn’t give you what you want because they can’t feed everybody.

        If you’re going to go after Trump, don’t judge him on the lapse of a maintenance agreement, for pete’s sake! Hold him accountable for how he resolves the situation.

        • GSV Death and Gravity says

          It is quite simple. Let us, for now, accept the premise that at the end of the Obama Administration, there were identifiable deficiencies in the Federal Government’s ability to respond to a pandemic. Given that we are now three years into the Trump Administration, the key question to ask seems to be: has that situation changed. And the reality is, at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, not only had inherited identifiable deficiencies not been addressed, but new ones had been added!
          I think it entirely fair to criticize Trump that the government was even less prepared for a pandemic at the beginning of 2020 than it was at the beginning of his term.
          It is also quite something that on a website where perhaps a majority of the commentators treat government as synonymous with incompetent that there is disbelief that things like maintenance contracts on stockpiled equipment were allowed to lapse.

  4. George Michalopulos says

    Talk about erring on the side of caution: the coronavirus has now displaced Barack Obama as the greatest gun salesman of all time:

    Dang, I knew I should have bought stock in Smith & Wesson!

  5. Christians are called to be dispassionate for a reason, it makes us more resistant to the snares of the devil. I see the present American posture vs the KungFlu as a symptom of ideological warfare. Each country has its own take (see Sweden). We have taken the KF in one of the worst possible ways – an excuse to meltdown.

    As time passes, it will become ever clearer that this “crisis” was in fact an attempt by the Empire striking back at Trump gone awry.

    Originally, the MSM, the propaganda wing of the DNC, thought Trump would perpetually resist attempts to turn the KF into a crisis. Their reasoning was that he could see it was indeed not a crisis by any rational, historical standard and therefore would not follow their lead, being stubborn Trump.

    Their edge, they assumed, was that they in fact could control the narrative and induce a national panic attack, blaming Trump’s dispassion for exacerbating the suffering and death. And they are still committed to that narrative even though Trump escaped the trap. They don’t know what else to do at this point.

    Trump escaped by giving them their crisis and taking charge of winning victory over it. Not too hard if, in fact, there is no crisis. Mostly a matter of looking confident, leaderly, competent and cooperative.

    Now, the whole thing is a lie, much like the Russia hoax. Play along at your own spiritual peril. There is a Russian story called Krys’ which covers some of this ground.

    The Dhimmicrats are in a very unenviable position at this point. You can see the fear and desperation in their eyes and in their compulsion to project. They have to walk the line between contrived crises and offenses and the loss of seriousness vis a vis the public. They’ll now say anything, gladly risking losing public support due to their irrationality, since they see no alternative given the abyss into which they are looking in light of the Durham indictments to come and come November. “Let it fly! What have we got to lose?”, being the default attitude.

    Books will be written about the uncovered details of all this just like they have and will continue to be about the Russia Hoax, Mueller, etc. God willing, the Dems will lose the House in November and the nightmare will be over.

    Over, ie, except for the MSM. That is likely the next major battle to be fought in the war of the ascendance of the Right. Trump Reelection has already filed suit against the Times, the Post, CNN, etc. for defamation. The standard is high but may have been met in the instances alleged. Moreover, with a conservative Court, the standard of Times v. Sullivan may be changed to allow greater accountability from the press. The damages in these suits could bankrupt these institutions and reshape the American journalistic landscape. What if the bankrupted media outlets were bought up by conservatives?

    So take heart. The night is dark but the dawn will come.

  6. George Michalopulos says

    Folks, there’s no other way to say this except that we’ve been had. Read it and weep:

    • ROU Killing Time says

      The problem is that this “good” news is merely that in NYC, a virus which is significantly more contagious than the flu is “only” about 10x an IFR than a flu:
      Rather than “we’ve been had” this is just a grim reinforcement of how much work it is going to be to keep deaths under control in the US in an ongoing basis.
      In the follow up:
      “We can compare #COVID19 1% infection fatality rate with an expected >80% attack rate (R0 of ~3) to seasonal influenza with 0.1% IFR and yearly attack rate of ~10%. Simple math would put unmitigated spread as >80X worse than a typical flu season.
      To be clear, these are numbers for NYC. Demographics and health system will affect IFR (can easily be 0.5% in other settings). Density / behavior will affect R0 (can easily be R0 of 2 / 50% attack rate). In these other settings, we then are “just” 25X worse than a flu season.”

      • Gail Sheppard says

        I’m sure when the Titanic experienced the exceptionally calm water we now associate with icebergs, they thought nothing of it. That’s the problem with our perceptions in the middle of something novel. We draw conclusions based on what we know and sometimes we don’t know much.

        When the bad stuff hits, the worst case scenario seems to play an exaggerated role in our imaginations. Again, we don’t know enough to mitigate our fears.

        Until we can reasonably estimate the number of people who have contracted the virus and survived, we won’t know the mortality rate. Without the mortality rate, we cannot compare it to a given flu season (which are projections, BTW; not real numbers).

      • Who are you working for? Gates? Merck? WHO?

  7. “Wake up America!”
    Rand Paul and Scott Jensen MD on the coronavirus: