More Jibber JABber From the GOA

As you can see from the flyer to the left, things are really getting crazy over at GOA-HQ.  To be honest, I never thought that they would jump onto the worldly bandwagon so enthusiastically. 

But by the looks of it, I was wrong.

Frankly, it’s embarrassing and more than a little risky.  The pharmaceutical/manufacturing companies, in addition to HHS and N.Y. Hospitals are probably indemnified, but the same might not hold true for mobile units on parish property.

If those vaccines are out of the deep freeze a bit too long, or the one who injects them fails to find the muscle, or someone has a life-threatening reaction or worse, dies on the spot, they could be sued.  Even if they won the case, it would cost them to fight their way to victory in a jury trial held within a city that has borne the brunt of the ravages of the pandemic and all it entails (think vaccines).   

I can just hear it now:

“If we had done this at a hospital, and not at your church, my husband would still be alive.”

“What do you mean the defibrillator in that particular van was on the fritz and you hadn’t had time to get it fixed?”

“Your church didn’t get my signature before killing my child.  I don’t care if she told you she was 18.  She was 12!  Who do you think you are:  a school?!”

“Your church is racist.  If you had given my husband the shot you gave that white person, he would be alive today.  I don’t care if that white person was next in line!  Black people are taken first as reparation for slavery.”  (Which, interestingly, is true.  People of color are treated before white people in some emergency rooms.)

Why they’d want to take these risks is beyond me.  It ranks right up there with marching with throngs of people during a pandemic.  Or Biden saying George Floyd did more for black people  than Martin Luther King.

Lots of mixed messages.

 Although it’s a Greek Archdiocese event, it’s being held on the premises of N.Y. parishes who are separate entities.  I sure hope they each have unlimited liability and their clergy and parish councils are indemnified against any and all losses.         

I could complain about the worldliness of that eparchy but let’s be honest, this is probably not going to outrage the people in the pews.  That’s because the lack of catechesis in the GOA is a stark reality and has been for decades now.  

As that Greek saying goes:  “to psari mireze apo to kefali.”

So, as pleasantly surprised as I was by Arb Elpidophoros when I heard he was going to be the keynote speaker at this year’s March for Life, something like this happens and sucker-punches me back to reality.

It’s just as well, I imagine somewhere in his speech in favor of the rights of preborn children, he’ll also say something about George Floyd.  

*Sigh*

Anyway, I’d like to ask you to watch the following brief clip about the jab.  And then after watching it, please turn your gaze back at the advertisement put out by the GOA:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6xXXZnfX5Pas/

Maybe instead of Communion, they could give out Kool-Aid instead?

Comments

  1. Why they’d want to take these risks is beyond me.

    It’s because they worship Satan. Occam’s razor.

    Science is the new religion, and the vaccine is the eucharist. At this point near everyone who will take it has taken it, and there’s no shortage of grocery stores that offer it. The purpose of the vaccination drives is the participation itself.

    It’s like the people raising awareness for breast cancer by wearing pink in October. It accomplishes nothing. The point is the participation.

    This is also part of the endless boosters. It’s eucharistic. It’s about community and identity. The vaccine has to be everywhere present and filling all things. It can’t be the cold deism of Roman Catholicism where you’re confirmed once long ago and never think about it again.

    Or Biden saying George Floyd did more for black people than Martin Luther King.

    King did absolutely nothing for black people. There was more looting after Floyd’s death, so Biden’s assessment is accurate. However, people of color still burned America after King’s death.

    I sure hope they each have unlimited liability and their clergy and parish councils are indemnified against any and all losses.

    That’s assuming that anyone shows up. Anyone who wants a vaccine will go to CVS. A van in a parking lot is where you go for a very different kind of drug.

    I could complain about the worldliness of that eparchy but let’s be honest, this is probably not going to outrage the people in the pews. That’s because the lack of catechesis in the GOA is a stark reality and has been for decades now.

    It’s New York. These people don’t believe in anything. Religion is just a civic thing. There’s no expectation for it to affect your personal morality. If an Oklahoma priest went to New York and started preaching Oklahoma religion, they would walk out.

    We need to not be in the same country. I would favor an Ozark Confederation of Missouri, Arkansas and Eastern Oklahoma. We can annex the corner of Kansas to keep Route 66. No Texans though!

    As that Greek saying goes: “to psari mireze apo to kefali.”

    Can we put this in Greek letters? Something like half the vowels in modern Greek make the ee sound. Transliterations don’t work.

    So, as pleasantly surprised as I was by Arb Elpidophoros when I heard he was going to be the keynote speaker at this year’s March for Life, something like this happens and sucker-punches me back to reality.

    Weirdly appropriate. The pro-life movement is a distraction for the right wing to make them think that they are engaging the culture but without ever actually accomplishing anything (c.f. breast cancer above). Of course he would speak at a meaningless token movement to seem like less of a liberal satanist. He’s play acting at being Orthodox, just like he play acts at being Greek or American.

    • Vladimir Ammons says

      Pro life is a distraction? Abortion is the unholy communion of satan.

      • Not being pro-life, but the pro-life movement. It achieves nothing, really. The ministry of those waiting outside abortion ‘clinics’ and providing counselling has far more effect than people marching through DC asking child-killers to stop killing children.

        I think Elpi’s decision to go to March for Life is cold and calculated, especially after GOARCH’s near-total ignorance of the movement and continual granting of awards to pro-abortion politicians.

        • Joseph Lipper says

          The Greek Archdiocese, in connection with the Assembly of Bishops, lists Zoe For Life as an organization that they endorse:

          https://www.goarch.org/-/zoe-for-life

        • I think Elpi’s decision to go to March for Life is cold and calculated, especially after GOARCH’s near-total ignorance of the movement and continual granting of awards to pro-abortion politicians.

          And I think his speech pretty much summed that up.

          But, to be fair I’m pretty sure Cardinal Dolan has done the same and he has been to the March for Life. Even Francis pays lip service to it

      • Yes, abortion is infanticide, and yes, most women who do it know at heart what they are doing, and yes, this is the reason God created hell.

        The movement however is a distraction. It gives people the sense of accomplishing something, but fifty years later very little has changed if at all.

        Being pro life is the safe conservative movement. It sort of fits within political correctness. You’re not allowed to oppose race mixing or women in the workforce. You’re not even really allowed to oppose homosexuality. But being pro life, this is acceptable. It gives Christians an outlet for their political angst without being anti-social.

        Abortion happens because people choose to have an abortion. But outsourcing, the TSA, the welfare state, and workplace harassment laws, these are things we had no choice in.

    • Servantofgodgermanus says

      You had me til you said no Texans! Lol!

      • Texas is for steers and queers.

        Actually, I really like Amarillo. The air is great, and they’re not whistling Dixie about the Mexican food.

        • George Michalopulos says

          Austin, really? I take it you’re being funny and referring to Full Metal Jacket. If so, you’re forgiven.

          As to Amarillo, I highly recommend The Big Texan. Excellent steaks, even if you don’t volunteer for the 72 oz challenge. (If you eat 72oz steak with all the trimmings in less than an hour, you get it free & your picture taken & put on the wall.)

          It’s a dream I have.

    • Austin, I must disagree with you MLK. Leaving aside his personal life, I think the potential for the improvement of blacks was better after him.

      The reason for the dysfunction we have seen in the urban communities is because the welfare state encouraged family dissolution.

      The same thing is happening to the White working class. Which is again by design.

      • The standard of living for black Americans has gone down since the 1950s. Every major city has a burned out ghetto that used to be a thriving business district in the black community. Objectively the civil rights movement was bad for the black community. I don’t know how anyone can argue otherwise.

        • George Michalopulos says

          Well, I can. You’re leaving out one other prong in this pincer: government assistance. Before the civil rights movement there was nothing that we would consider Welfare today, then. That destroyed black family formation and as Charles Murray has pointed out over the last 30 years, it’s destroying white and Hispanic family formation.

          What’s left is state-subsidized matriarchy.

          • Welfare started under FDR and was explained under LBJ.

            One major thing that ruined the black community was desegregation. Black customers abandoned black businesses to shop at the white businesses, because blacks equate race with status. So the black businesses dried up.

            Another thing that changed with the civil rights movement was racial dialectics becoming normal in mainstream discourse.

            King was a Marxist, and Marxist dialectics were foundational to the civil rights movement. Let it be know that on this day, January 21, 2022, George Michaelopoulos has claimed that Marxism has benefitted the black community. [Editor’s Note: No he didn’t. George talked about black people becoming dependent on government assistance, which frankly is the worst thing that ever happened to black people. He never used the word Marxism or said it benefitted anyone.]

            • Gail Sheppard says

              You realize that anyone could pick up your characterization and smear George and our blog. Try to be more accurate as we don’t want people saying “Monomakhos believes that Marxism has benefited . . .” Actually, Marxism is the worst thing that has ever happened to the black community. If they weren’t so dependent, they could risk relying on their own talents and not have this chip on the shoulder that white people owe them something because they can’t get ahead. They actually believe they cannot get ahead in our world without our help and it’s our duty to give them what they want. Sounds more like what an aging adolescent would say to his parents when he’s afraid to move out of the house. They could and would do just fine if we didn’t make it so easy for them not to try.

            • George Michalopulos says

              Austin, we do know now that MLK was a Marxist (or at least a socialist, as well as a Republican and a Zionist) –all true.

              The idea though that Civil Rights is based on Marxism is in my opinion, false. If it is, then I would be against it.

              As for Welfare starting under FDR, we can say that Social Security did in fact start under him but then again, SS (in the ideal) was a retirement account in which people paid into it. I realize of course that the Feds have been raiding the SS trust fund for decades now, but you know what I mean, so, strictly speaking it’s not a Welfare scheme.

              LBJ is the major culprit for creating all the alphabet agencies we have now.

              • Ok, where angels fear to tread . . .

                One must get past the nomenclature to truly understand what happened during the “Civil Rights Movement”. When this country was founded, only whites were considered “men” by the founding fathers. It took a constitutional amendment, imposed by duress rather than accepted freely for ratification, to recognize blacks as full persons under the Constitution.

                Later, a system of separate but equal; i.e., segregation, was set up to keep the races separate since blacks remained in America after having been freed (though some had been relocated to Liberia). What the “Civil Rights Movement” did was use specious constitutional reasoning to restrict the private property rights of property holders such that they lost the right of exclusion (which is the basis for actions of trespassing) if the reason for the exclusion was race. This was done ostensibly to protect the interstate commerce interests of black/colored drivers who had to layover in different states as part of their trucking operations. Heart of Atlanta was the main case upholding the Civil Rights Act of 1964 on the grounds that establishments of a certain size, even if privately owned, needed to be forced to accept negro patrons for the sake of protecting interstate commerce.

                This is actually nothing other than pious fiction (but it inspired the opening words of the Band’s early hit “The Weight”). But the Commerce Clause became the parking lot for civil rights of uncertain pedigree as a catch all web that asserted in the aggregate that these matters . . . mattered. After all, you can’t just say, “Because Justice Warren said so.” as the reason. It was only after the Reagan Revolution in the 1990’s that the Court began to pull back from allowing Congress to do anything and everything under the Commerce Clause.

                That is just the beginning though. Later, we had affirmative action which is reverse racism (similar in spirit to CRT). It was asserted that due to past systematic injustices a regime of racial and gender preferences was necessary to rectify matters. So anti-white racism and anti-male gender discrimination were read into the law.

                “Oh, what a tangled web we weave . . .!”

                Of course, this crap was supposed to have an expiration date after which color blind and gender blind admission and hiring would resume.

                “Fifteen days to flatten the curve . . .”

                But it all blew up. It was going to twist and writhe on, but the ascension of the Golden Don intervened. Aka, the Polarizer, he set off the feminazis and evidently inspired Antifa and BLM to make America burn again. And so the gloves came off and it is getting permissible to speak more freely about the macabre racial dystopia we’ve created here in America and whose interests the race baiting serves.

    • Antiochene Son says

      Yes, this is textbook virtue signaling.

      That’s assuming that anyone shows up. Anyone who wants a vaccine will go to CVS.

  2. Wait, this is happening on Sunday morning during liturgy. Or rather, right before and right after.

    You know that the priests will be addressing it in their sermons.

    • Which Mystery will you receive? The Holy Mysteries from the Chalice or the medical/worldly mystery in the syringe? Hmmm.

  3. There supposedly is a high miscarriage rate for pregnant mothers who get the vaccine.

    • Ronda Wintheiser says
    • Nate Trost says

      That is not what studies are showing. However, studies are showing elevated miscarriages and stillbirth with unvaccinated pregnant women who contract COVID:

      https://www.science.org/content/article/covid-19-starkly-increases-pregnancy-complications-including-stillbirths-among

      • Ronda Wintheiser says

        Good Lord, Nate, do you think we are stupid?

        Any illness increases the possibility of miscarriage or complications during pregnancy. No one with a brain would even need to do a study to know that.

        The point is that these shots ARE ILLNESS. And that it took FOIA documents to reveal what we really already know about Pfizer and these other criminal drug companies:

        “Given the high numbers of doses given, the number of adverse events continues to climb. VigiBase, the database of the World Health Organization, reports pregnancy complications including:

        3,952 spontaneous abortions
        353 foetal deaths
        189 missed abortions
        166 premature labours
        160 premature babies
        154 abortions
        150 slow movement of unborn baby
        146 hemorrhages in pregnancy
        132 premature deliveries
        123 fetal growth restriction
        120 stillbirths
        105 ectopic pregnancies
        90 pre-eclampsia

        “Public health agencies justify these dangers by claiming that women (or their babies) are more likely to experience them with exposure to the virus than to the vaccine – but they provide no evidence for this. The study they refer to most comes from the CDC itself. A comparison of stillbirth rates in 1,249,634 deliveries at 736 hospitals during March 2020–September 2021 among women with and without COVID infection, it establishes that there was indeed a surge in stillbirths – but not at the height of the first deadly wave of the virus, only ‘during the period of Delta variant predominance,’ i.e., after pregnant women were being pressured into vaccines. CDC wouldn’t consider that the experimental, ‘novel platform’ mRNA injections could be the reason that stillbirth affected only 0.98% of COVID-19–affected deliveries pre-Delta compared to 2.70% after the vaccines were introduced.

        “’Vaccination status was unable to be assessed in this analysis,’ the CDC wrote. This is the agency that is calling for vaccine mandates and introducing QR codes across the country. It can demand to know if you are vaccinated or not if you want to go to your local restaurant, or gym, or football game, but for a national study of its ‘most critical,’ supposedly lifesaving intervention during a supposedly unprecedented global pandemic, it’s just not possible for the most powerful health agency in the world to determine vaccination status? Everyone knows that every pregnant woman entering a hospital for the past 18 months gets a COVID test. The CDC knows which women were vaccinated and which weren’t in this, it just doesn’t want to tell us…”

        Who are you running interference for, anyway, Nate?

        • Nate Trost says

          The article I linked includes links to two studies that specifically looked at pregnancy outcomes with COVID vaccination.

          The data in the Cumulative Analysis report retrieved by FOIA is unremarkable. It isn’t supporting a claim that pregnancies in vaccinated women are experiencing rates of miscarriages or stillborn above an expected normal baseline.

          Interpreting data from that kind of report is prone to the exact same mistakes and misuse that happens with VAERS. I really can’t stress this enough. For a readable overview of the topic:

          https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-health/dont-fall-vaers-scare-tactic

    • Miscarriages, also referred to medically as spontaneous abortions, are no higher in vaccinated women than the normal range for all pregnant women.

      • Fr. Thomas says

        Where is your data? This is very counter to what I have been hearing.

        • Gail Sheppard says

          Yannaro is correct.

          One (extremely small study) by the New England Journal of Medicine found that of those who were both pregnant and vaccinated, the number of reported miscarriages was statistically the same as unvaccinated women.

          Out of a total of 221 women who were both pregnant and vaccinated:

          70.1% of the reported adverse events involved nonpregnancy-specific adverse events.
          29.9% involved pregnancy- or neonatal-specific adverse events.

          Because the general rate of miscarriages in the U.S. ranges from as low as 10% to as high as 26%, 29.9% (of the vaccinated) is not significantly different than the rest of the population.

          There were a lot of things wrong with this study, however.

          ADVERSE-EVENT FINDINGS ON THE VAERS
          During the analysis period, the VAERS received and processed 221 reports involving Covid-19 vaccination among pregnant persons; 155 (70.1%) involved nonpregnancy-specific adverse events, and 66 (29.9%) involved pregnancy- or neonatal-specific adverse events (Table S4). The most frequently reported pregnancy-related adverse events were spontaneous abortion (46 cases; 37 in the first trimester, 2 in the second trimester, and 7 in which the trimester was unknown or not reported), followed by stillbirth, premature rupture of membranes, and vaginal bleeding, with 3 reports for each. No congenital anomalies were reported to the VAERS, a requirement under the EUAs.

          https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104983

          • George Michalopulos says

            Darlin’, I’m withholding comment on this until all (or most) of the facts are in. For now though, I’m leaning to Yannaro’s point of view. As a community-based pharmacist, I have seen a lot of pathology spike up this past year (when the vax became prominent).

            I can’t say for a fact that I’ve seen an increase in miscarriages (as that’s not a scope of my practice) but I have seen an increase in psychotropic drugs being dispensed. Diabetes meds are through the roof, which could be because of excess sedentary lifestyle brought on by forced unemployment.

            As for the crime stats, they’re through the roof. (But that’s a story for another day.)

            • Gail Sheppard says

              Note that I said there were problems with this study. Yannaro was telling the truth, though. This is the study everyone is quoting and because it’s of its association with the New England Journal of Medicine, which used to be one of the most respected scientific journals in the world, people believe it.

              What they don’t know is that the NEJM has become a shill for Gates.

            • Nate Trost says

              George Michalopulos wrote:
              “Diabetes meds are through the roof”

              This should not necessarily be surprising:

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8474977/

  4. With vaccination rates so high, having a GOA vaccine drive now is like shutting the barn door an hour after the horses have escaped. Why would the average Joe want to walk into strange Taliban territory for a shot when every reputable drugstore in the country offers such?

    Wonder why there wasn’t a Holy Unction drive when so many people spent a year and more alone and desperate for hope? Why weren’t the bishops standing on front porches anointing the old, the home bound, those alone and living in fear? Where was faith, hope and love?

    The GOA plays to optics and headlines only. They are phonies right down to the soles of their shoes.

    • Antiochene Son says

      Simple: they don’t believe Holy Unction would help. These people are functionally atheists, based on their deeds alone.

      I’m disappointed with the Church as a whole for neglecting the sacrament of Holy Unction during the pandemic. I know some very pious clergy but not a single parish in my area held an Unction service during the pandemic. This thing isn’t reserved only for Holy Wednesday, people!

  5. Austin,
    “As that Greek saying goes: “to psari mireze apo to kefali.”
    Can we put this in Greek letters? Something like half the vowels in modern Greek make the ee sound. Transliterations don’t work.”

    “Τό ψάρι μυρίζει ἀπό τό κεφάλι”

  6. I won’t waste any more time on GOARCH. I consider them Uniates in all but formality and that’s the way they behave. It’s a done deal. One does not beg the sun for mercy.

    • No, those are just the ones at the top. There are many saintly priests in the trenches.

      • Very true. Fr. Panayiotis Papageorgiou is one of them, so is my former GOA priest. There are many priests in the GOA that are trying to shield their flock, how much longer that can last remains to be seen. In bright news, I have a good friend who was at St. Antony’s Monastery for their feast day and he told me there were maybe 1,000 people there (or so it seemed), so thanks be to God that the Ephraim monasteries are still fighting…maybe they will be the saving Grace for the GOA.

      • AM,

        Just to underscore the gravity of the situation.

        I agree with you that there are many pious believers within GOARCH. They are in a serious predicament and I understand if they choose to remain until there is a formal synodal condemnation and grace is withdrawn. But that is their gamble since the Phanar is spouting heresy with sine paribus and GOARCH are ducks in a row behind them in their extra-canonical endeavors, especially in the Ukraine, but also intervening in Serbian and Bulgarian disputes, et al.

        The East judged the character of the Latins in 1204 with the sacking of Constantinople. What we are witnessing now will leave a similar mark against the Phanar and new calendar Greeks in jurisdictions recognizing the OCU. In addition to the atrocities like the one above there have been countless church seizures and expulsions and untold violence. This is not merely an ecclesiological difference of opinion but an assault by the West, through the Phanar, the mothership of GOARCH.

        • I’ve never understood ROCOR people’s visceral hatred for the GOA. It’s emotional anger, not dispassionate anger.

          And I don’t see how the calendar issue is relevant. What difference does it make what calendar the church is on?

  7. Ella Marie says

    Jibby outreach ministry w coffee and loukoumades fellowship

  8. I thought I’d never write here again – but here I am! As a New Yorker, I want to ask you why do you care?
    Austin and Misha, here, write daily about how they prefer to think that “coastal elites” don’t count as people. Why don’t you folks fight your “heartland” vaccine battles and leave us “less-than-people” be? You said it yourself, we took on the brunt of this pandemic and the context here is different. You keep fighting your good fight out there with the good Christian people of the Heartland.

    • As someone who decided not to write on here, why do you care?

      As it stands, the USA is still one country, so, wherever we may be, we still have one struggle against the forces trying to destroy our people. If Misha, Austin, and others get their dream of godly partition, then you can tell them to mind their own business. Until then, while Brandon and his Demoncrats technically rule over this land, we’re all entitled to an opinion.

      • “…we’re all entitled to an opinion.”

        Indeed, but you do not appear to be allowed to express it;
        unless (of course) it is exactly in line with the uniparty opinion.

    • Why do I care? Because it’s the godless coastal “elites” who run the Church.

      If we had an Ozark Autocephalous Church with our own seminary, I would be happy to let all the damn Yankees go to hell, but since all of our seminaries and the bulk of the administration is in the Northeast, the godless “people” in the northern Atlantic states are trying to drag us to Gehenna with them.

      There are many saintly Greek priests in the Heartland whose hands are tied by Atlantic bishops.

    • Gail Sheppard says

      RE: “Why don’t you folks fight your “heartland” vaccine battles and leave us “less-than-people” be?”

      Kind of hard to “let someone be” when they won’t leave.

      • George Michalopulos says

        Reminds me of a favorite C&W song title: “How can I miss you if you won’t ever leave?”

        I can’t remember if anybody recorded it but it should have been Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys.

      • Yeah, it’s farcical that a New Yorker is accusing the heartlanders of harassing them and enforcing our values on them from a distance. Is that actually a thing they claim?

        • Gail Sheppard says

          At this point, they’d find fault with us for eating popcorn. – We hold truths they don’t want us to say out loud, but they’re going to be red-pilled whether they like it or not.

  9. Damian Vansuch says

    So,are they not having Divine Liturgy at those churches that day? Seems the 8-12 slot covers Matins & Divine Liturgy.

    On the sarcasm side, are the offering the shot instead of antidoron after receiving Holy Communion ?

  10. Want a Religious Exemption from the jab….here’s where your name goes :
    https://en-volve.com/2022/01/18/biden-admin-caught-compiling-database-of-religious-objectors-to-vaccine/

    • That applies to Federal Employees. At my company they decided not to touch the religious exceptions and just accepted them. It was that or face lawsuits.

      Here’s the bottom line. We will face persecution. Which would you rather face persecution for, medical or our Faith in Christ?

  11. Angea Sinzianu says

    Has this been confirmed? I went to the websites of the churches listed and did not find any information about this ‘event’.

  12. https://orthochristian.com/144024.html

    Bartholomew’s plans are out in the open, he has to trick the other Churches into concelebrating with the OCU

    I pray none of them go

  13. George Michalopulos says
  14. There looks to be a financial incentive for faith based organizations promoting the jab…

    NYC Vaccine Referral Bonus Program
    The NYC Vaccine Referral Bonus program incentivizes community- and faith-based organizations to encourage members of their neighborhoods to get vaccinated by awarding $100 for each person they refer who gets their first vaccine at a City-run site. When a person makes an appointment ahead of time or walks up, they can select the organization that referred them to get vaccinated. Once the person receives their first dose, the referral organization will be credited $100, up to a total of $20,000.
    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/coronavirus/vaccines/vaccine-incentives.page