Very interesting article published by our friends at Helleniscope. It’s kind of ironic actually, as today’s the day in which Fr Alex Karloutsos went on TV and announced that St Nicholas Shrine was being re-started.
Of course, I don’t know how the hundreds of priests in the GOA are going to feel, now that the Archdiocese is going to not pay their fair share of their pensions. If memory serves, in his initial conference call with all the priests in the GOA, Arb Elpidophoros, assured them that his “first priority” was to make the priests’ pension fund solvent. The implication was that 79th St will start paying their share again. Instead, he and the Akorns somehow managed to cadge the $45 million necessary to re-start the white elepSt Nicholas’ Shrine.
It’s all about priorities.

The big question is whether or not they had pizza at Soros’ birthday party.
Based on what I’ve been reading as of late, pizza is often served at the parties these people have been known to attend. They all like pizza apparently.
Pizza contains all of the basic food groups. Everyone knows that.
A pizza this… a pizza that…
What should one expect when your Archbishop makes a calculated decision to march arm-in-arm with an anti-American Marxist organization by the name of BLM? I feel really bad for the good priests who must endure this madness.
Lord have mercy!
I’m willing to bet, unfortunately, that the whole project will get delayed (yet) again. A close friend of mine and his wife in the New York area now go to an Antiochian parish because of all the mishandling of money by the GOA on this travesty of a project. So much potential, so much failure.
Personally, when I read that Soros “baptized” that particular girl, I thought I’d fallen into Bizarro World. Nothing surprises me anymore.
It reminds me of that joke in which a certain person wanted a funeral for his beloved dog. He went to a Greek Orthodox priest and asked him if he’d do it. The priest took great umbrage: “Why we don’t perform sacraments for animals!” The distraught person said that he was Greek himself and he was going to make a donation of $5,000 to the priest’s parish. The priest then said “Well, why didn’t you TELL me the dog was Greek?”
Except this did happen with the police dog a while back.
That story of the dog must be some common European trope. It is the very starting point for this Brazilian movie that weaves several European medieval tropes with local themes.
Auto da Compadecida (A Dog’s Will) https://vimeo.com/187383441
It’s in Portuguese, but it has English subtitles. I strongly recommend it. It’s hilarious and also contains a lot of criticism towards elites both secular and clerical.
FUNNY!!
… of course dog could have parishioner status as some ecclesia’s do animal blessings
It’s all inexorably corrupt, there are no righteous men or women in positions of leadership or influence in this greater Greek world. The church, the politics, the business practices—the sell out and rottenness, everywhere I look, are of epic proportion.
I don’t think it’s quite as bad as all that.
https://www.monomakhos.com seems honest enough…
I think we have arrived at the point where we need to determine where Soros is not. Unbelievable how deeply this man has infested himself in areas that affect our everyday lives. Lord have mercy.
The Russians and Hungarians have kicked out all NGOs associated with him. I believe they also have outstanding arrest warrants for him. Why can’t we do the same here?
Can’t or won’t?
Tanya — exactly. Soros is truly the Archetypal leftist Jew on steroids + Hollywood is run by ‘them’
Here we have the latest on the Saint Nicholas debacle. Same cast of characters. Where is the ντροπή ~ shame ?
https://www.helleniscope.com/2020/08/04/st-nicholas-rebuilding-promo-revealed-once-again-all-sins-and-sinners/
A phrase comes to mind here, and, although its origin is much disputed on the internet. we know it goes back at least to The Godfather, Part II:
“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”
Sun Tzu
Of more importance to us than the source of the quote should be the issue of whether the advice to keep your enemies even closer than your friends applies to the many concerns of Greece, Cyprus, and the Diaspora. I think it does. Both our ancestral homelands and our Diaspora are tremendously outnumbered by potential opponents. The best path for us now will be to tread lightly, realizing that to over 99% of the world (including Russia), all of the many Greek-related concerns are on a very low priority.
If it becomes necessary later, we can turn against Soros. For now, why not keep decent relations with him?
Something about selling one’s soul to gain the world, or something…
Or “Blessed are the peacemakers….”
But if you feel differently, go ahead and tell us of your plan to successfully challenge Soros, the media, Turkey, the EU, the secularists in the Diaspora and in Greece, and the Democrats in the US. A tall order. Proceed carefully. Take care to not make things worse.
George Soros interview with Steve Croft from years ago. Many-to-most here may have seen it, some more than once. In my own world, it seems to be a sort perennial bad penny. It just keeps turning up: https://tinyurl.com/t6tqq5t
OT (or is it?): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576371/Police-bodycam-footage-shows-moment-moment-arrest-George-Floyd-time.html
George Floyd body cam has been released. As we already knew from the security footage, he was clearly on drugs and he was saying he couldn’t breathe before anyone laid a finger on him—while he was in fact breathing.
This has been a criminal tactic ever since Michael Brown, saying you can’t breathe so the cops will ease up. Naturally they have come to ignore this complaint because if every person you interact with cries wolf, it gets old.
It’s huge for the defense case, but it doesn’t matter. It’s a win-win for BLM: if they hang the cops they get to celebrate a victory, and if the cops get off they get to riot again and make hay.
I don’t disagree with you AS but the second “win” you sight is getting rather old. So old in fact, that Democrats are terrified it’s going to ensure Trump’s reelection.
I am somewhat perplexed as to the longevity of the BLM religion. While many are prostrating (literally) before it, it’s a false religion and ultimately it will become a laughingstock. The question is: when will this happen?
Hey. Monomachists worried about Soros! Calm down…as Trump would say, “Yo! Semites!”
The says ARE too short!
I sure miss the intelligent, retired bishop, His Grace Bishop Tikhon. The newly inspired Bishop Antifa, not so much.
🙂 Soros denied his own familial, Hebraic influences, roots, heritage, etc. In fact as (an apparently gifted) teenager, George worked with the Nazis and helped them glean what was then the materialistic expression of “the rich root of the olive” He even had his own spiffy uniform. It’s a sight for sore eyes. His own words were something to the effect: “I chose to survive. I felt no remorse. The world was what it was.” These days we are only concerned about him b/c he could (and perhaps is) doing those things he was taught back in the 1940’s. Back then he was only a gifted apprentice. The days are too short. Though not always short enough.
He appears to be entirely lacking empathy.
This does not bring forth trust from me.
Hmmn Soros, a Jewish communist/globalist, openly admits to conspiring with Nazis to murder brothers and sisters. Is he hunted down and tried, convicted? No. And yet people lose jobs, and sentenced to prison, for questioning the official narrative. Speaking of which, what’s up with the latest Epstein bombshell, that Epstein and his cohorts dragged the richest and most powerful global leaders through a Mossad.
There were many Jews who worked for the Nazis, they were called Sonderkommandos. They provided many of the more fantastical accounts of the Holocaust, some of which are still treated as factual, although Jewish historians have trimmed back elements of the accepted Holocaust canon over the years.
” Soros denied his own familial, Hebraic influences, roots, heritage, etc. ” WHERE AND WHEN SPECIFICALLY did Mr Soros deny such?
“YO! SEMITES!”
Your Grace, great to hear from you! I’ve read much about Soros and even saw the 60 Minutes interview in which he openly admitted that as a teenager in Hungary, he used to go with the Waffen SS and point out Jewish families, for which he received a reward. He had no compunction about doing so. As an atheist, there is no reason for compunction and anyway, he said “if I didn’t do it, somebody else would”.
In addition, as a young man he prided himself on his “Aryan” physiognomy: blondish hair, blue eyes, etc.
Where and when did Mr Soros specifically DENY HIS FAMILIAL, HEBRAIC INFLUENCES, ROOTS, HERITAGE? Didn’t he, RATHER, use them to survive?
“Soros was born in Budapest in the Kingdom of Hungary to a prosperous non-observant Jewish family, who, like many upper-middle class Hungarian Jews at the time, were uncomfortable with their roots. Soros has wryly described his home as a Jewish antisemitic home.”
Slater, Robert (January 18, 2009). Soros: The Life, Ideas, and Impact of the World’s Most Influential Investor. McGraw Hill Professional. p. 30. ISBN 9780071608459. Retrieved November 16, 2016.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros#cite_note-36
You did not answer my question!
You think Paul Newman didn’t appreciate his own blue eyes? Most non-Jews pride themselves on their blue eyes if they have them. SO WHAT? Do Soros’s notable achievements irritate known anti-Jewish types? That’s what this is about, no? Is it not a problem of GREEN eyes?
Who would envy the efforts of a narcissist who creates conflict so he can bet on all possible outcomes and guarantee himself a win? There is no sport here. No notable achievement. It’s the same play over and over again with the same result. He goes from one country to the next, fueling conflict. He’s so predictable, he’s boring. Destructive, to be sure, but boring nevertheless.
Gail: “Soros denied his own familial, Hebraic influences, roots, heritage, etc.” WHERE AND WHEN SPECIFICALLY did Mr Soros DENY such? (“YO! SEMITES!”). when did he DENY THEM, not WHEN DID HE regret them! Gail, he NEVER EVER “DENIED HIS OWN FAMILIAL HEBRAIC INFLUENCES,ROOTS OR HERITAGE.” You are expressing what you prejudicially extrapolate!
Did you even look at the citation? You added something new: we now have to determine his regrets. Exactly, how would we go about doing that?
Frankly, I’m not sure why you’re screaming (the all caps) at me. No one is denying Soros’ DNA and no one is denying he is a self-proclaimed atheist.
Is the concern that contrary to his Hebraic influences, roots, heritage, etc., he is not a practicing Jew? I would not have married the father of my children whose family were ALSO non-observant Jews if that were a concern. As a devout Christian, keeping my family Jewish was not a priority for me.
This is kind of a sweet story:
For whatever reason, our priest did not want George and me to marry in our parish and the bishop gave his blessing for us to be married outside the Church. I was not happy with the solution, as the whole point of getting married is to live a sacramental life in the Church. We requested an audience with His Eminence, but George and I could not talk with him for several months until his visit to Tulsa.
Like Soros, my oldest friend, Anne, is 100% Ashkenazi. She has the DNA results to prove it! She was raised in a Jewish home and refers to herself as a proud Zionist, which is something George could explain better than I. To me, she is just my very good friend who used to spend vacations with me at my grandmother’s in San Diego when we were younger.
I told her about my plight and she said, “I’ll marry you, Gail. I’m a judge. We can invite all our friends and have a reunion.” So we made plans to do exactly that.
When our bishop came to town a couple of months later, George and I had an opportunity to plead our case again, and though he said he needed time to think about it, he called me back in front of the parish a few minutes later, as the parish lined up to receive his blessing. He then called the priest over so he could be present, as well. He said: “Gailina, get your marriage license immediately,” for which we are eternally grateful.
We got our marriage license the following week. Abbot Gerasim agreed to marry us in the Cathedral in Dallas since we couldn’t marry in our own parish. He performed the ceremony January 19, 2020 (this year hasn’t been ALL bad) and it was lovely. A few of our friends from our parish were able to make the trip and some of the people from St. Seraphim who knew us from the blog attended, as well.
But I still had these other plans in my hometown of Tucson, where some of my friends were flying in from other states to attend.
So we got married a second time by my Jewish friend, Anne, who also threw us a lovely reception at her home. Though she said the ceremony would not be religious, she read to us from 1 Corinthians 13, saying it was “old Jewish writing”. I knew, however, she was doing it because she knew it would mean something to us.
I have no personal prejudices against Jews, Your Grace. Blue eyes, brown eyes. . . they’re all the same to me. – The only GREEN EYES I have are my own.
I second what Gail wrote. We had a wonderful time in Tucson and “Judge GiGi” (Anne’s childhood nickname, which Gail still calls her, pronounced with a hard “G”) and her husband were a delight! If I may say in passing, I have met many Jewish people over my 60 years, and I am more than a little intrigued in how many of them are interested in the Orthodox Church. If my understanding of the patristic writings on Revelation say, in the end-times there will be a mass conversion of Jews to Holy Orthodoxy.
At what point should I have given up expecting our bishops to be articulate and thoughtful?
Not just Greek American or Democrat. Soros has a lot of our Ambassadors and diplomatic corps abroad.
One thing that briefly came up at L100 was what would happen to the funds that the shrine generated. Abp. Elpidophoros asked in a half jovial voice whether the Archdiocese would get revenue from it.
A big factor there is whether the shrine would be a parish with members who contribute dues or if it would be basically a chapel or typical Shrine or holy place that people visit and May donate to voluntarily. If it is the latter, like a chapel without a real congregation of parishioners, then it may not generate much cash on its own. The maintenance fees may be high enough that they overshadow the revenues generated buy by visitors’ donations. Even if the place turns a profit then the prophet might not be so high to make it very worthwhile for the Archdiocese. The natural Financial conclusion is that the Archdiocese should make it a parish, but it is in question whether they would actually do that. One reason is because they have already billed it as a shrine for all mainstream Christian groups as far as I know, then it is far less likely that it is going to be a parish specific for the Greek Church. Okay, some wealthy donors might make big donations to the Shrine in order to show that they are friends with the Greek American community, but in that case the shrine would be in effect a middle man. That is, the donors intended to make a donation to The Greek Church and the shrine was the place that they chose because it was there and the Greek archdiocese wanted it as a focal point for donations. Theoretically the donors in that case could have given the same amount of money or more to a more benevolent or effective cause or fund like Holy Cross College in Boston, which needs money and serves a much more productive purpose By graduating students with a religious education. Or of course even better yet is the Orthodox Christian charity organization, although that is a pan Orthodox organization. So basically if it is a shrine which apparently will be, it is not really going to generate significant Revenue for the Archdiocese on its own. It is basically in that case a Greek Orthodox themed and operated giant ecumenical Chapel in one of the key areas for the American population and business community, ie Manhattan.