Glory to God!


“His Beatitude Metropolitan Tikhon, in his primatial capacity, desires to commission a new icon of All Saints of America, and, accordingly, the Chancery of the Orthodox Church in America is issuing this call for proposals. The Metropolitan Council of the Orthodox Church in America has made provision for the funding of this new icon.”

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NEW YORK: 2 January 2024
The First Hierarch of the Russian Church Abroad receives a delegation of the Romanian Orthodox Church

https://www.synod.com/synod/eng2024/20240102_ensynodromaniandelegation.html

NEW YORK: 12 January 2024
The head of the North American Archdiocese of the Antiochian Orthodox Church visits the Synodal Residence of the First Hierarch of the Russian Church Abroad  NEW YORK: 12 January 2024

https://www.synod.com/synod/eng2024/20240112_enmnms.html

NEW YORK: January 30, 2024
The Primate of the Orthodox Church in America visits the Synodal Residence of the First Hierarch of the Russian Church Abroad in New York

https://www.synod.com/synod/eng2024/20240130_enmnbmt.html

 

Comments

  1. Glory to God! says

    Wasn’t too long ago that a warm and friendly reception between the first hierarchs of the OCA and of ROCOR in New York City was unthinkable!

    Glory to God for this progress! May it lead us toward closer collaboration, and may fraternal meetings like this help grease the skids toward an administratively united Orthodox Church in North America….. it’s way beyond time for that.

    Everyone’s getting closer with warmer relations, except the elephant in the room…. the GOA/C’ple hierarchy, who often pretend to be “more special” than all the rest. Makes one very suspicious of them.

    • A quick survey of recent history of pan orthodox activity in America should suffice to persuade anyone that a cautious stance on the part of GOA bishops is less likely a case of pretending to be more special than their brother bishops, than it is mindfulness of their primate Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew’s response to the Ligonier Meeting and the subsequent sacking of Archbishop Iakovos of America

  2. Fr Paul Walliker says

    There is one who is missing and it is because the OCA is sitting on its hands, despite his remains being uncorrupt.

    Blessed Dimitri of Dallas.

    • Good point! As I understand it, the proclamation is that the canon of saints is not yet complete?

    • Glory to God! says

      St Olga of Alaska is missing as well.

      • I believe that if you read the fine print, Met Tikhon’s declaration says something about “local saints” and such.

        Since we’re on this subject, am I to expect that non-OCA saints are to included as well (besides Ss Raphael of Brooklyn, John Maximovitch, Sebastian Dabovich, etc?

        If I’m wrong, I hope that somebody points it out.

    • Yep!

      I have Bishop Dimitri directly to thank for me becoming Orthodox!

    • Having known Dimitry and having followed his career from its beginning, I would not recommend that this path be followed. In my perception, he did not do well in the Diocese of New England, I was pesent when he did not help the situation at Three Saints in Ansonia, and it was very disappointing when it seemed that he failed to actively support Archbsihop Job when the OCA scandals were breaking. I have been told that if it was not have been for Fr. George Gladky, the foundation for the Diocese of the South would have been as firm as it was. My intent is not disparge him at all, but to issue a cautionary note here. As Davey Crockett said in the Disney movies, “Be sure you’re right, then go ahead.” In this situation, we need to use caution. I was once told by my mentor V.Rev. Paul Schnierla that there was a guideline that 100 years needed to pass before a person is considered for sainthood. He said that this was because no one who knew the true person would be around to refute any information. Fr. Paul was very insightful and his opinions were usually right on target. Yes, Dimitry did well by the Diocese of the South, however I find it difficult to rank him as a contender for sainthood, as did Fr. Paul, especially in light of Metropolitan Leonty, or even Metropolitan Platon. These leadership and spiritual giants are the reason for why we have the O.C.A. today. Let us pray that God leads us down the correct pathway.

      • George Michalopulos says

        RJ, thank you for your insights. While I agree with you that Met Leonty (and Platon) should be considered for the sainthood, the fact remains that the DoS is what it is: a success story in American Orthodoxy. (Perhaps the only success story.) That Dmitri built upon the foundation set by Fr Gladky is surely no obstacle, in fact, quite the contrary.

        That said, the outpouring of grief experienced by the people of this diocese is (to my mind) unprecedented for a bishop –any bishop–in America. The closest I have seen to it is the recent repose of Elder Ephraim of Arizona (who was not a bishop). If I am wrong about this, please correct me.

        My point is that it is the Holy Spirit who directs the people to exhibit this kind of adoration (should they be open to it) and it was for this reason that his repose in the Lord was such a momentous event. And it was a momentous event –both in his dying days and subsequent funeral and his reburial five years later. The latter was huge and spontaneous.

        Notice, I said nothing about the incorruption of his relics or the evidence of miracles, interventions or visions that have already been reported since his repose. Yes, these are anecdotal but I firmly believe that more will come forward and redound to his benefit when it comes time to consider his canonization.

        Admittedly, the “100 year rule” is not a bad one and if we have to wait another 90 years for his canonization, so be it. If anything, I believe the evidence of his sanctity will become even more pronounced by then.

        As God wills.

      • rj, lots of good insights here, some of which I need to reflect on. If you don’t mind, I’ll have a more complete answer for next week’s “Saturday Evening Post.” I do like your idea of waiting a century before canonization.

  3. Peter A. Papoutsis says

    Don’t ever mistake the leadership with the people. The Greek Orthodox Church, despite its lackluster leadership, is still faithful and strong.

    Peter A. Papoutsis

    • Yes Peter, and so many faithful clergy and monastics in the Greek jurisdiction too! Just one notable example amongst so many gone unnoticed, Geronda Ephraim and his monasteries have proven to be a profound blessing to Orthodoxy in America and around the world. Christ is in our midst!

    • I believe you are correct, Peter.

    • George Michalopulos says

      Very well said, Peter. The pious layfolk know what they are about –and that includes ignoring the questionable things said at the top.

      The Church will go on, regardless of the nonsense.

  4. “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country, among his own relatives, and in his own house.”
    https://orthochristian.com/151232.html

  5. I see no reason to believe any known American Saints would be excluded. St. Olga has been venerated for quite awhile now. Her canonization has just become official now. There’s already a more updated icon that Uncut Mountain Supply sells. I would assume this icon will have all the Saints that one does. I don’t know much about Archbishop Dimitri, but I know he’s beloved. But we have to give it time as well. It’s only been a few years since his repose. The one good thing about the internet and increased interconnectedness is the lives of these men and women are more available than ever. So I think we’re seeing this process accelerated from what it used to be.

  6. Sean Richardson says

    This icon is very beautiful, engaging and inspiring. There is one VERY controversial issue, however and that is with Peter the Aleut. Unfortunately, there is zero, as in no, historical evidence that he ever existed. No one knows where he was “martyred” and there’s absolutely no evidence that the sort of torture he endured ever happened anywhere in the California Mission system. I’ve spoken with leading Orthodox and California historians about Peter and every historian I’ve spoken with has agreed, sadly, that this story is far more polemics than history. As was once stated: “When myth and fact disagree, print the myth”. That is what has happened here.

    • Well, there is some “historical evidence” as people have written about him. Can what’s written be verified? I don’t know. – But what it really comes down to is what the Church is willing to accept. Many people in the Church (especially in AK) have accepted the Peter the Aleut story. No one is trying to perpetrate a myth. If that were the case, one could question its legitimacy. The martyr Peter the Aleut lives in the hearts of the people.

      • According to the late Fr Michael Oleksa, Peter the Aleut was a historical personage. St Herman of Alaska, upon hearing of his martyrdom, immediately offered a prayer for his soul.

    • You could be right, – there may be zero historical evidence. However, the Body of Christ Himself presents us with an icon of St. Peter and therefore a saint worthy of veneration. This much is true and accurate.

    • “When myth and fact disagree, print the myth”

      …is an excellent summary of the plot of:
      The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

      • Great movie btw. The raw masculinity of John Wayne when countered with the cultured mind of James Stewart, was a brilliant distillation of what it takes to build a civilization. Stewart represented law while Wayne represented order. The fact [SPOILER ALERT] that it was Wayne who surreptitiously killed Liberty Valance but allowed Stewart to think that he had done so buttresses the civilizational mythos of the West.

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