Goose, Gander . . .You Know the Drill

Last month, almost to the day, Fr Mark Hodges took part in a peaceful demonstration.  (The hooligans who commandeered the Capitol were not part of the demonstration and they had already penetrated it while the President was still speaking.)  And for this, he was brought up on charges, and was suspended for three months.  Word on the street is that he is facing possible laicization.  

Fr Mark’s unjust treatment has been a cause celebre on this blog, as well as others.  It’s even received much publicity from both electronic and print media.  Having said that, many Orthodox Christians of the more liberal variety have taken Fr Mark to task for –what exactly? I don’t know–tactlessness, maybe?

I dunno, there seems to be a class divide working here.  Fr Mark is rather a jovial, Red-state kind of guy:  very pro-life, eight kids; you know, that kinda guy.  Clearly not one of the more hip or urbane clergymen that are all the rage in many Orthodox chanceries.  You know the type, the kind that pepper their sermons with the latest talking points from Fordham University or The New York Times editorial page.

So what’s my point?  If you look at the photo that accompanies this blog post, you will see a certain OCA priest from the Diocese of New York/New Jersey, rather proudly strutting about in his cassock, posing in cruciform fashion, holding up a very Orthodox-looking Crucifix.    

At a Black Lives Matter rally. 

Yep, you read that right.  BLM, a terrorist organization that embraces every aspect of cultural Marxism.  Pretty much from A to Z.   No nuance here.  Nothing to see here; please move along.   

Unlike Fr Mark, there has been no disciplinary action against the priest in question.  Nor do I desire any action against him.  After all, this is America and like every other American,  he had the right to march in this rally.  First Amendment and all that.  I for one would never dream of taking that away from him, no matter how negative my feelings are about BLM.  (And boy, are they negative.) 

But the powers that be in the OCA are more than willing to take that same right away from Fr Mark.  What’s that old saying about double standards?  That if it weren’t for double standards, some people wouldn’t have any at all?

But seriously, folks, when you look at this, you’ve got to wonder if Scripture was onto something when it said “you cannot serve two masters.” 

OK, I’ll go ahead and play this game, the one about whether it was “unseemly” for Hodges to march at a rally on the Mall in his cassock.  So here goes:  isn’t there something “unseemly” about an Orthodox priest, dressed in his cassock, holding up the same cross we venerate in our services?

One would think so.  That is if one were consistent.     

What is missing here is context.  That cross does not belong outside the context of our Faith.  That cross does not belong to this priest.  That cross is a symbol of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and belongs in the Holy Orthodox Church.  If he is going to wield it in victory in the public sphere, he can keep it at home on his mantle right next to his special edition light-saber from Star Wars.  No one should have to venerate that particular cross in the Orthodox Church ever again.  Not one that was used to bless a BLM rally, an odious organization that has failed to condemn the violence that took place on their behalf for the better part of a year.  

Holy things are for the holy.

See what I mean about double standards?   Are you absolutely sure you want to play this game?   



  1. Pat Reardon says

    Thank you, George

  2. Thanks for calling this to attention.

    I’m pretty convinced that these priests and bishops and the Sodomy in Dialogue types are not accustomed to being called out or questioned. Which is exactly what we need to do, and have finally started doing mainstream.

    Just look at the hit piece that Sodomy in Dialogue did about Michael Sisco, a good Orthodox guy who called them out on their BS

    It’s been like shining a flashlight on cockroaches.

    Many of us, myself included, have done a poor job defending Orthodoxy and fighting back. It’s time to take it seriously so we don’t end up like the Church of Laodicia:

    Revelations 3:15-16
    15 I know your deeds,(D) that you are neither cold nor hot.(E) I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

    • “Sodomy in Dialogue” is the perfect description of the blasphemous and dark site run by Sanfillipo that glorifies homosexuality and transgender insanity and savages decent and faithful priest.

      Giacomo Sanfilippo’s Unholy Vendetta Against Faithful Orthodox Priests and Teachers

      Giacomo, Peter J, Sanfillipo is obsessed with his homosexuality. He is consumed by it. On his very public Twitter account Sanfillipo regularly proclaims his gayness and calls other men “babes” and “hunks.” He also admits he is fixated on much younger men. Most of his writings on his falsely-labeled “Orthodoxy in Dialogue” website glorify homosexuality and praise the LGBTQ agendas, while sadistically attacking and trying to destroy the lives of many traditional Orthodox priests who oppose homosexual sin.

      To this day not one bishop has criticized or denounced Sodomy in Dialogue or the delusional, blasphemous and perverted work of Sanfilippo.

      • The man is deeply, deeply deluded. He’s taken to calling himself “The Orthodox Church’s most famous living gay man.” Sorry, but you’re not part of the Church.

  3. And what of black robed Archbishop Elpidoforos marching boldly with the BLM? His cross was worn around his neck.
    It was most definitely not the Archbishop Iakovos moment he was channeling.

  4. DayofReckoning says

    Lest we forget look what the Black Lives Matter stands for. BLM does not hide its racist, homosexualist, anti-family and anti-Christian goals. This is from the “What We Believe” page on the Black Lives Matters website:

    We are unapologetically Black in our positioning….

    We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

    We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

    We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women [men] who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence….

    We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

    We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

    We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

    Documented here:

  5. Christine Fevronia says

    Who is the OCA priest in this picture?

    • Any answer to this question? I’d like to know as well.

      Though God certainly can use (and has used) the young and inexperienced to accomplish His will, that is not what is happening through the priest in the photo above.

      The most charitable answer is that the young priest pictured above is assuming a lot of “white guilt” for slavery (which he had no hand in participating in), and is making hapless, empty, meaningless overtures to the Black community that he, like Bill Clinton, “feels their pain.”

      But BLM is an aggressively Marxist and anti-Christian organization. They laugh at the notion of Christ crucified, that there could ever be “strength in weakness.” They mock the fact that Christians love our enemies and do good to those who hurt us.

      This priest has no business being there. Just as “Abp” E had no business marching with BLM.

      Faithful Orthodox Christians in North America should know who this clergyman is. We also need to know who his bishop is, and whether he was disciplined or not. We need to know who to NOT go to for confession.

      Modern secularist “Woke-ism” has infected everything, including our Church, apparently. Secularism and the Church are incompatible — like oil and water. They don’t mix.

      I watched the dystopian series on Amazon a few years ago, “The Man in the High Castle.” It’s a dystopian reality that the Nazis won WW2 and Eastern America is run by Nazis – the “Greater American Reich.” Frightening stuff.

      In the series, the Obergruppenführer of the American Reich (I always kept hearing “Ober-Procurator” every time I heard this word… the Ober-Procurator was the former lay head of the Russian Church Holy Synod before the Patriarchate was restored in 1917). Anyway, the Obergruppenführer of the American Reich at the end of the series begins to regret going all-in with Nazism and misses pre-WW2 real America. His wife asks him “how do we stop this? How do we get back to the real America?” He answers, “I don’t know how to stop it.”

      I fear that’s where we are with militant American secularism/Marxism/Woke-ism/creeping totalitarianism. Most Americans don’t like it, but no one knows how to stop it.

      Heck, Lou Dobbs, the #1 show on FBN, just got cancelled! A for-profit network does not cancel its #1 host unless something truly nefarious is going on behind the scenes. Corporate U.S. media is in the tank 100% for cancel-culture and for secularism/Marxism/Woke-ism/creeping totalitarianism. Where corporate culture and the media go, there follows the rest of America.

      Our Leonid Brezhnev-esque “Booby-boobs” president Biden is just a front man along for the ride. As will our next president Harris, the pathetic former prostitute who will be venerated in the secular halls of America as the “first female president.”

      How do we stop it? Can we? Maybe we can’t.

      • Gail Sheppard says

        We were told it was a priest from the greater NY area and he put it on his Facebook page.

        • Peterburgskaya says

          I found him with a little logic puzzling. He doesn’t have a photo in the OCA directory. He serves a parish in a subdivision of Queens. The photo is still up on his public and unlocked Facebook so I will assume Fr. Garklavs doesn’t mind us knowing it’s him.

  6. Christine Fevronia says

    Sorry, George and Gail, for asking that in a public comment and not emailing you directly. But this priest has partaken in an Ifa ritual in which spirits of the dead were summoned to work and speak through participants at this rally, including himself. The literature on how BLM protests are begun with witchcraft, dark magic of the Ifa and voodoo religions, summoning and communing with the dead, and engaging in protection spells, is SO readily available. The co founders of BLM are on record in interviews on this subject regarding using Ifa spells and incantations to summon dead spirits and ask the dead spirits to enter and/or surround the protestors and protect them, and that footage is also widely available. So for this OCA priest to engage in what is essentially a dark magic Ifa ritual is more than a shame — it could be perilous for his very soul! He is very likely ignorant of what he participated in as most folks are. If you could please email me his name, I would love to send him all the literature on this subject so he can be more aware of his actions and participate in the appropriate spiritual remedies the Church offers. BLM is not an anti-racist movement in the same vein of Dr. King’s marches. It is a violent movement centered in witchcraft, and those rituals are unequivocally NOT something an Orthodox priest should be involved in. I only seek his name (via email) as I would love to share these facts with him. Thank you both.

    • Gail Sheppard says

      Wow. I didn’t know anything about this.

    • George Michalopulos says

      No apologies necessary. Truth be told, I wasn’t aware of the demonology involved. Yet another reason to condemn BLM and all Christian participation in it.

      • Christine Fevronia says

        Here are just a few salient quotes about the occult practices of the BLM global network and their 16 global chapters. These are copied verbatim from the sources.

        While the involvement of church groups and traditional religious leaders in various aspects of Black Lives Matter has been noted by news outlets, there is another spirit that animates the Black Lives Matter movement, one that has received little attention but is essential to a new generation of civil rights activists… An embodiment of that spirit is Patrisse Marie Cullors-Brignac. Recently dubbed one of the nation’s top civil rights leaders by Los Angeles Times, named a NAACP History Maker in 2015 and one of the three founders of #BlackLivesMatter, Cullors… is a queer polyamorous practitioner of Ifà, a religious tradition from Nigeria, and a person many people turn to not only as a political leader but as a spiritual leader. [Cullors is an ordained Iyanifa priestess in Ifa.]

        When asked “Can you talk about how you begin a BLM protest? How do you characterize those moments?” BLM cofounders responded: “We generally ask that people not film the openings of our events and demonstrations. And part of that is the demonization of the way in which we acknowledge spiritual energy… Pouring libation, which is a centuries old tradition among African people, acknowledging that when bodies are stolen, spirits still remain. So there was that consciousness but more than that consciousness, as we pour libation, and engage in spiritual work, we actually don’t want that disrupted in any way by filming because we believe that the filming actually disrupts some of the spiritual energy. All Black Lives Matter meetings and protests begin with the pouring of libation. The way that we choose to pour libation most often recognizes first those whose bodies have been stolen through state sanctioned violence. So we call names like Kenneth Ross Jr., Waukesha Wilson, Kisha Michael, Michelle Shirley…and so many others. In Los Angeles County, we know that there are 610 names that we could call over the last seven years who we fight on behalf of. So we begin by calling those names. And then we begin calling the names of those who we call our warrior ancestors. We summon them into the work as well. And then… we ask people to call on a bloodline or spirit line ancestor in their own lives, so your grandmother, great grandmother or grandfather, uncle. And you call those names. We usually have whoever’s pouring the libation, say the name and have the entire crowd, repeat the name. And then we say the word ‘ashay’, which is a Yoruba word that means ‘Amen.’ And that’s how we open all of our Black Lives Matter demonstrations and gatherings. We’re there for a reckoning. We’re there because spirit commands that we be there… The conscious reclamation of Black Lives Matter as a spiritual movement. We call this our sacred duty. This is our sacred duty. It’s what we’re summoned in to do. So once we call the libations, start calling the names and pour the libation, it kind of brings everything into alignment and you can feel the shift in energy among the folks who are gathered.”

        Discussing the formation of BLM: “The first night that we gathered and the summoning of ancestors to space and the very palpable spiritual energy that circulated through the group as we stood in a circle at St. Elmo Village, which is probably one of the most spiritual spaces in the city. We stood under the moon and pledged to build a movement. I think in those moments, there was a spiritual energy and we acknowledged it… And a few months in, as we began to be more deliberate and thoughtful about what we were doing with our organizing, as we go pour libation at the ocean, we began to recognize the importance of spiritual energy and the fact that it had always been there, but we didn’t always recognize it collectively… And in that frame, Black Lives Matter chapters and affiliated groups with the movement the reclamation and expression of Native and African spiritual beliefs and practices. It’s not just a spiritual act. It’s a radical spiritual act.” (

        “Spirituality is at the center of BLM,” said Cullors during a June 13 Zoom call with Dr. Melina Abdullah, co-founder of BLM Los Angeles, as they discussed the methods by which they “practice traditions from West African places. When we come out into the streets, and we pray – the first thing we do when we hear of a murder is we come out and we pray, we pour libation we built with community where the person’s life was stolen,” said Abdullah. The term libation is, by definition, “the act of pouring a liquid as a sacrifice (as to a deity). Hebah Farrag, assistant director of research at the USC Center for Religion and Civic Culture, examined one of Abdullah’s rituals. And she explained that as Abdullah was pouring libations on the ground, those present chanted “Asé.” She clarified that the Yoruba term is “often used by practitioners of Ifa, a faith and divination system that originated in West Africa” – occult practices. “It’s a very important practice,” said Cullors. “It is literally, almost resurrecting spirits so they can work through us to get the work that we need to get done. I started to feel personally connected and responsible and accountable to them. Both from a deeply political place, but also from a deeply spiritual place.” Abdullah explained that when they “say the names,” they “invoke that spirit, and then those spirits actually become present with you.” (

        Abdullah and Cullors touched on the practice of calling out the names of the victims that they advocate for in protests and demonstrations. It’s kind of a way to invoke their spirits, Abdullah said. Uplifting the names of victims goes beyond creating hashtags. Cullors touched on West African traditions that center on remembering ancestors. The women also touched on their tradition of praying and pouring libations during demonstrations. As part of the ritual, people recited the names of “those taken by state violence before their time — ancestors now being called back to animate their own justice.” After each name, Abdullah poured libations on the ground as the group in return chanted “Asé.” The Yoruba term is “often used by practitioners of Ifa, a faith and divination system that originated in West Africa.” (

        “Maybe I’m sharing too much,” she said, “but we become very intimate with the spirits that we call on regularly.” …We become very intimate with the spirits that we call on regularly. Right, like, each of them seems to have a different presence and personality. You, know I laugh a lot with Waukesha, you know. And I didn’t meet her in her body, right, I met her through this work.” [Waukesha Wilson was found dead in a Los Angeles jail cell in 2017.]

        Although there are many groups that use “Black Lives Matter” or “BLM” in their names, only 16 are considered affliates of the global network. The number 16 for chapters is important to BLM, and in 2018 when one global chapter left, it was replaced with another global chapter. The number stays consistently at 16, and that number is centered on the Ifa religion. #BLM has 16 chapters, which fits in nicely to the core teaching of Odu Ifa on the importance of the number 16. According to oral tradition, the 16 odu ifa were 16 heavenly prophets that came down to Earth and revealed themselves to Orunmila, the prophet of Ifa religion. Orunmila is also known as the deity of wisdom that was present during the creation and allocation of destiny for all human beings. It is through the divinatory processes that the odu currently shaping our lives is revealed to us. This sacred act of divination (performed by an experienced Babalawo or Iyanifa) is what provides the opportunity that allows us to know ourselves better. Each odu contains information associated with the good and the bad. It provides guidance on how to manifest the good and how to keep negative disruptive forces known as Ajogun at bay. (BLM cofounders zoom conversation,

        Participants arrived dressed in white, in keeping with traditional Ifá ceremonies. Ifá is a faith and divination system that originated in West Africa and involves rituals of chanting, dancing, calling on deities, magic, ancestor worship and traditional medicine like reiki and acupuncture. At the ceremony, participants joined hands and a preacher facilitated the ritual, conjuring Ford’s spirit and transferring it to the crowd. BLM and affiliated groups like Dignity and Power Now have been working together to blend a variety of spiritual practices, including Ifá rituals and other traditional African practices, with the idea of “transformative justice” with origins in Quaker and Native American groups. Caribbean and West African religions like Ifá have been growing among African Americans in recent years as practitioners seek to discover their identities and ancestral roots more, according to the Washington Post. As a pastor and the founder of Clergy for Black Lives, an organization aimed at encouraging Christian involvement in activism and bridging gaps in perception between Christians and BLM activists, Rev. James Thomas frequently encounters people who have negative views of the Black Lives Matter movement. Thomas aims to integrate elements of African spirituality like pouring libations and invoking the presence of deceased relatives into Black Christianity. (

        She led the group in a ritual: the reciting of names of those taken by state violence before their time—ancestors now being called back to animate their own justice: “George Floyd. Asé. Philandro Castille. Asé. Andrew Joseph. Asé. Michael Brown. Asé. Erika Garner. Asé.” As each name is recited, Dr. Abdullah poured libations on the ground as the group of over 100 chanted “Asé,” a Yoruba term often used by practitioners of Ifa, a faith and divination system that originated in West Africa, in return. This ritual, Dr. Abdullah explained, is a form of worship. The movement infuses a syncretic blend of African and indigenous cultures’ spiritual practices and beliefs, embracing ancestor worship; Ifa-based ritual such as chanting, dancing, and summoning deities; and healing practices such as acupuncture, reiki, therapeutic massage, and plant medicine in much of its work, including protest. (

        Co-founder of BLM Toronto Yusra Khogali: “whiteness is not humxness. infact, white skin is sub-humxn…. white people are a genetic defect of blackness…. white ppl are recessive genetic defects. this is factual…. Melanin directly communicates with cosmic energy. this is why the indegeniety [sic] of all humxnity comes from blackness. we are the first and strongest of all humxns and our genetics are the foundation of all humxnity…. white ppl need white supremacy as a mechanism to protect their survival as a people because all they can do is produce themselves. black ppl simply through their dominant genes can literally wipe out the white race if we had the power to. it is why white supremacy as an imperial system thrives. it tries to control, suppress, and destroy our existence in blackness because we are a threat to the genetic annihilation of white ppl.” (

        The hashtag #WitchesForBLM has gained 10 million views, according to Mashable, which says “practicing witches are teaching each other how to cast simple spells, draw sigils, and manifest intentions.” “The witches do not hide their involvement in the violent protests,” reports LifeSiteNews. “… witches’ covens are actively engaged in hexing police, whom they accuse of brutality. They especially target those who are risking their lives to stop the riots. The witches also cast spells asking for protection for protesters that confront the police. Witch activists used their dark arts as cutting-edge weapons for those who want to engage in a more spiritual class warfare.” “The hashtag #WitchesForBLM serves as a meeting place for practicing witches who want to learn how to cast protection spells, draw occult sigils, and hex police. Five days after the hashtag started, it garnered 10 million views on the TikTok app.” (

  7. Jane Tzilvelis says

    Orthodoxy doesn’t need revision. We do!

  8. Matthew 10:36. Some jurisdictions have become “self distructive”.

  9. How much effort and money would it take for you to upgrade your website to include a survey section where we could vote to BAN, CENSOR , IMPEACH some of these clown communist Orthodox religious leaders?

    I’d write the first check.

    • Gail Sheppard says

      Definitely something to think about. These days, just keeping up with the news is like a full time job!

  10. Michael Bauman says
  11. Michael Bauman says

    Anyone else notice the unmasked people in the picture?

  12. Michael Bauman says
  13. Does anyone else think that this priest looks like Nicholas Cage?

  14. I don’t like BLM that much either, but it’s worth considering that there’s Black Lives Matter the movement, and then there’s Black Lives Matter Incorporated. Two different things: most of what you say would be applicable to the latter, and not necessarily reflective of the former.

    • George Michalopulos says

      The trouble is, if the “movement” doesn’t condemn the “business” (or racket), then they are complicit in the latter’s atrocities.

      True story: in 1804, when the African slaves in Haiti started their rebellion against their French masters (which I can’t say I blame them, things were that intolerable for them), they began their rebellion by invoking the names of African deities, said deities being demons.

      They won their freedom. However to this day, Haiti is in the grips of a grinding, intractable poverty. And that wicked religion is still being practiced.

  15. This may be wishful thinking, but, maybe God is working out the multi-jurisdiction issue in America though all of this. I know ROCOR isn’t perfect but in the past year a lot of people I know, on and off this blog, have switched or are planning to switch over to ROCOR, myself included God Willing.

    The facade has been removed and we are able to see our shepherds for who they really are. The ones who have stood against this onslaught the most (though not totally) have been ROCOR, and the Serbians/Georgians.

    People are going to go where they are spiritually fed…and we are currently starving due to the very people who should be leading us.

    The Orthodox mission in America was started by the Russians. They are the ones who evangelized here first. The EP liked to claim that but seems to be totally disinterested in mission work here.

    One possible outcome: The OCA splits and goes with GOARCH (wherever they’re going), Moscow revokes the OCA’s autocephaly and gives it to ROCOR in the U.S

    Again, could be wishful thinking but God’s Will be done

  16. This rally was not organized by BLM, it was organized by the local Civics association. Just because people believe Black Lives Matter, it doesn’t mean that they are somehow in league with BLM.

    • Gail Sheppard says
    • George Michalopulos says

      Just another “mostly peaceful” protest.

    • Peterburgskaya says

      Ah well the test is to say “yes, of course I believe black lives matter. In fact I believe all lives matter.” And see what the reaction is. If someone simply “believes that black lives matter” and is not a BLM supporter, they will have no need to object to such a blandly nice statement, as it’s right up there with “you should be nice to grandma” and “don’t stomp on kittens and puppies” in the controversy department for normal people. However if the person buys into the toxic critical race theory/neoracist marxist ideology of BLM, they will object immediately. If they don’t completely flip their wig (and people have been **shot dead** for saying “all lives matter” to a BLM ideologue in a testy mood) they will say something like:

      “well but it’s rude to say that right now because Black Lives are in need of special attention due to the injustices visited upon Black Bodies by the racist system”


      “if a man is grieving his father you don’t say ‘all fathers matter’ and Black people are grieving right now so it’s insensitive to say all lives matter” (always with the capital B if it is written, too)

      or even

      “All Lives Matter is a RACIST DOGWHISTLE and people who say it can never just mean it in earnest.”

      • I just tell them that no lives matter, just to rattle their cages.

        • George Michalopulos says

          The penultimate irony of all this BLM nonsense is that it is built up on racialist identity politics. The ultimate irony therefore will be the resurrection of apartheid and neo-nazi ideology.

          It’s inevitable.

          People forget (or, more likely, not taught) that all of the Progressive movements of the last century had a racialist component to them. Not all of them were as blatantly racist as Jim Crow in the South, often they were more benign, like the apartheid regime instituted in South Africa. It was designed with a paternalistic attitude towards the blacks. Even the Nuremberg Laws instituted by the Third Reich were considered “enlightened” for their time (i.e. if a German had only two Jewish grandparents, he was still a German.) This was more enlightened than the “one-drop” rule which stated that a white American would be tainted as a Negro if he even had one great-great-grandparent and could otherwise “pass” for white.

          To be in the S.S., the ultimate in racial purity, one only had to be able to identify as “racially pure” if all of his ancestors from 1750 onwards was considered to be German.

          It get’s even more ironic: W E B DuBois, an African-American leader went to Nazi Germany in 1935 and was impressed with National Socialism, believing it to be the right program for black people in America.

          • Don’t believe the hype. The Wehrmacht and Waffen SS both had a large number of foreign volunteers, many of them swarthy.


            “The Waffen SS was the most ethnically diverse army in western history.”

            There’s a whole series of books (three volumes, I think) about this called “Black Nazis!”

            There’s much more to the story than the normie historians will let on.

            • George Michalopulos says

              The Einsatzgruppen SS were indeed drawn from indigenous European nations (e.g. Ukrainians, Croatians Albanians, etc.)

              To be a member of the core SS, one had to.prove “pure” German descent

              • The Einsatzgruppen were German units. The foreign volunteers served as front-line infantry in most cases, or as anti-partisan and garrison units in others.

                Many of the atrocities supposedly committed by the Einsatzgruppen were actually carried out by Bolshevik partisans, as ordered by Stalin infamous Order #0428 (the “torchman order”), later confirmed by the government of the Russian Federation as authentic:


                • George Michalopulos says

                  Basil, I don’t disagree. I was merely agreeing with your main point that the SS was a multi-ethnic/confessional band of auxiliaries that willingly (and enthusiastically) fought for the Third Reich.

                  As for Stalin’s Order, I find that fascinating but am trying to wrap my head around how it could play into his war plans.

                  • Simples. The people welcomed the Germans as liberators, as they naturally hated the Stalinist regime. If they can be made to think that the Germans are wantonly slaughtering people for no reason, then they’ll take up arms against them. False flags have always been a thing.

                    On the subject of foreign volunteers, one of the most interesting is the SS Cossack Division, which was led by a German officer. After they surrendered to the Brits, he was given the option of being interred by the Western Allies while his men were being forcibly (and treacherously) deported back to the USSR, but chose to stay with them and was eventually executed by the Soviets. Some say he converted to Orthodoxy through the example and witness of the Cossacks.

                    Another is the SS Charlemagne from France, who were the last men to fight at Hitler’s bunker in Berlin. After being captured by the Allies, they were executed by firing squad, dying with “Vive la France!” on their lips, their arms extended in the Roman salute.

                    History is full of surprising incidences that the official books won’t tell you.

                    • George Michalopulos says

                      Of course they welcomed the Germans as liberators. That was not my question. My question specifically was addressed to Stalin’s motives.

                      Besides, not all Einsatzgruppen were liberated (as we the Ukrainians). Like the Charlemagne, the Albanians, the Croatians, they joined willingly.

                    • Anonymous II says

                      Look, the communists won World War II. We may not have known what this meant, and we may not want to know it now, but maybe the west chose poorly. If you don’t think so, look around.

                    • George, see the second part of my first paragraph. Stalin wanted to use false flag operations to reverse the pro-German sentiment and get the people on his side.

                      Anonymous II – I’m going to have boomers incoming for this, but this (paraphrased) quote from David Irving sums it up, I think: “If the soldiers fighting for the Allies saw how their countries have ended up, they would throw down their weapons and fight for Germany.”

                      Or this classic Patton quote: “We defeated the wrong enemy.”

                      If only more people would be even willing to consider what could have been, rather than parroting the official narrative in the face of unwelcome truths…

  17. “Just because people believe Black Lives Matter, it doesn’t mean that they are somehow in league with BLM.”

    Some of us believe All Lives Matter, that all other races need raised to legal equality with blacks, so that BLM supporters can’t attack lighter skins with impunity in broad daylight, and the police don’t come arrest the victims of BLM’s terrorism for the “crime” of self defense and/or trying to flee.