I’m sorry, but I’m having too good a time with all this. Really, it’s so hard for me to wrap my head around all the complexity that all I can do is sit back and laugh.
So when I saw this parody over on Instapundit, I had to go with it.
I’ll fill in the blanks later. (You can too for that matter.) Let’s just say for now that it looks like the reason Loretta Lynch didn’t indict Hillary is because Hillary’s got the goods on Obama.
In the meantime, grab the popcorn or whatever finger food you have handy because tomorrow night’s debate is gonna be one for the history books!
Laughter really is the best medicine.
Outstanding post, my friend. Thanks for the laugh.
If Trump reminded me of a professional boxer, it wouldn’t be Dempsey or Clay or maybe it’s Liston wait, how about Sugar Ray Robinson and Hillary Sugar Ray Leonard. Ray Robinson with one combo exchange head blow opponents layed out. My favorite boxing
match was Frazier vs. Ali the first one. That was the great fight. “Thrillar in Manilla” all hype. Frazier knocked Ali down but his face at the end looked much more bludgeoned.
Trump is Ali Hillary smok’n Joe.
That was a great fight.
So tell me why you support Trump. Why is he a better candidate?
That’s easy:
1. 1st Amendment (again TPP and turning over the internet to a global consortium.
2. 2nd Amendment.
3. Illegal immigration. (For what it’s worth, I’d have voted for the late Barbara Jordan, a black lesbian who was a Congresswoman from Texas. She was most eloquent about reducing immigration to manageable levels. Because she was black, she knew how terrible illegal immigration was for African-Americans.)
4. The Wall, and most importantly at this point:
5. He’s not a war-monger.
The wall is a shameful, xenophobic, political symbol.
See above. I’m not sure he’s the better candidate but he’d be a better president. Certainly a healthier one.
George, Don’t worry if Trump is not a better candidate that Clinton. The media might be applauding Clinton on her debate victory, but what they still do not realize is that ordinary Americans do not view the debate the way they do. Middle of the road Americans like myself, have heard the double speak before, from both parties. Trump speaks and thinks like most us. Most of us are tired of open borders, giving away money to countries that hate us, and no return on that money, unless you pay to play. Wars that make no sense. Bail outs to companies that our government says are too big to fail. Mexicans coming over our border, and receiving free medical, and education, while the rest of have to put a large chunk of take home pay on heath insurance, and property taxes on schools(or pay for Private school) that have been dumbed down, because we have to spend resources and time, on the Mexicans who do not speak English, and need money for lunch and breakfast. Our politicians do not enforce laws on these immigrants, and even set up sanctuary cities where they can’t be touched, even if we tried to deport them. Simply making a living is very difficult for most now. Fifty years ago, a family could live in comfort with only one parent working, while the other took care of our children. Now it’s a struggle with both parents working. Now strangers, internet, and televisions raise our children, with the values of Hollyweird as mommy, and daddy.
Many of us can’t even voice our opinion any more without being called a racist, homophobe, or hater of woman. Traditional values are obsolete. Church is next on their list, they just still have not figured out how to put the “frog in the warm pot” yet. We already know that the modern world views us, and projects us Christians as backward low class hicks, with no education to enlighten us, with the likes of Darwin.
The good news is, that the silent majority has finally woken up. We hear Trump, and all his political view points and wonder why other politicians are not on the same train. We see politicians of both parties trying to destroy Trump, and know the money train might end for them, and come back to the Americans. Trump is no angel, he is a typical no sugar coating New York business man, but that is what traditional Americans like about him. They see themselves and their neighbors in Trump, good and bad. This is why nothing the media throws at Trump sticks. They see Trump as themselves, straight talk, not say what ever sounds good attorney/politico/media speak that we have gotten so tired of. So even though Clinton might of gotten all the political elite excited by her performance, typical Americans were not impressed.
SORRY TYPO:” They see Trump as themselves,”( should have read): We see Trump as ourselves,”
Most Americans see through Trump’s wall promise as double speak.
We see through his divorces.
We see through his bankruptcies.
We see through his deferrments to avoid service.
We see through his xenophobia, yes racism.
But see what you want.
These are two politicians. Trump was a politician when he started the birther movement.
We see through the birther movement, too.
This election is about neoliberalism. Hillary is a neoliberal and so are most of the career politicians in the Democrat and Republican parties. She is the latest representative for those who want open borders, financialization of the economy, unregulated derivatives, technocratic planning, and unbridled rent-seeking behavior — in short, those who want to fundamentally change the nature of the country and erect over it a modern, neoliberal planned and managed state. She will throw a bone to her constituents and talk about social justice and government programs but that’s not really what she has been tasked to do.
Trump is not a great statesmen nor a deep thinker. He has some rather shady connections that are typical of people in his position and trade. However, he talks in a way that makes the neoliberal establishment worried because the unfolding of their program, going back to probably Kennedy, is finally approaching the beginning stages of its completion. If Trump is elected, he’ll only likely delay this process but that will depend on whether he recruits advisers and cabinet members from the neoliberal establishment. Here, a certain amount will depend on his economic advisers, what he decides to do regarding the Fed, and whether or not he keeps his word regarding NAFTA and the TPP. Hillary will only further the aims of NAFTA and the TPP, despite changing her tune recently. Having said that, it’s unlikely Trump will provoke war with Russia or pick hippy-dippy progressives to populate the Supreme Court. Both politicians are unlikely to change any general policies regarding Israel. While it’s likely Clinton will continue to support efforts to remove Assad, it’s not clear how Trump will resolve the situation. Seeing “though” Trump wouldn’t be so laughable if Clinton was a principled politician with a history of defending the common good. I suppose for her supporters the the idea is, “my mother, drunk or sober.”
Anony, All of those statements you have made are all well known. How the people judge Trump, and analyze him, compared to what we have had in the past fifty years is what will decide this election. We are not the even close to the nation we were thirty to fifty years ago, as I stated in by previous comment, and Americans miss those days.
Many Americans have been through divorces, bankruptcies, military deferments (especially Vietnam), and even some levels of xenophobia. The goal is to better ourselves. So we relate. Trump is not trying to take the Pope’s job. We all have sinned in the past. No one would want to be slandered as Trump has, like no other Candidate in history. His methods are raw, unlike our seasoned politicians, but does that mean they are any better than Trump?
The killing, and corruption of our past Presidents, and Hillary, does not come close to sins of Trump. History has shown us how “nice and respectful” are candidates are in public, yet once in office, not too many see their true motives and actions. Strange that Senators spend tens of millions of their own money for a job that pays a couple hundred thousand a year. The Clintons, Obamas, and Bushes, will sell whatever they can to whom ever wants to pay up. Patriotism is lost to our politicians, they just grab whatever they can while in office, and set themselves up, in the future, for the next Ponzi play.
Again Trump is no saint, but he has not started wars, or civil conflicts, which have ruined the middle east, and killed a least a million people, not to mention up rooting tens of millions to line his pockets. His pockets are already full, so the hope is he is running more on patriotism, than love of hooking up to the political money funnel. Whether we like it or not, either Clinton or Trump will be our President, as Orthodox Christians we should not vote for Clinton, with issues such as government sponsored abortion, and all the Supreme Court appointments to come soon, it should be a no brainer.
Will Trump make mistakes? Of course, who has not, but our hope is that, his decisions will be made to better America first, not foreign nations, bankers, and politicians. Who knows. “But see what you want”. It is your right.
P.S. Anony, Calling someone a racist, shouldn’t be spoken lightly, without concrete proof. If you are a Christian you should know not to bare false witness. Just trying to help a brother out
Dino – Building a wall to keep out the Mexicans isn’t racism? He didn’t say we needed a Canadian wall.
It is a concept that would’ve made Reagan barf.
Xenophobia is one of Trump’s attributes. I didn’t start it.
As a Christian, you should know that some of the Syrian refugees are Christians, but Trump wants to shut off all immigration so we can vet ?Christian refugees?
come on man
You’re being a bit disingenuous. Trump has never said Mexicans should be kept out. He has said a better vetting process must be put in place to keep illegals and criminals from entering the country. The real culprit here is the 1965 immigration reforms that Ted Kennedy and Rep. Celler pushed through. I would also be careful about trying to distort the issue here by suggesting that defending one’s borders is anti-Christian. One can find in various places of St. Elder Paisios’ conversations his defense of the idea that Greece must defend its borders. Of course, part of what he was concerned about was preserving Orthodoxy. By the way, only a tiny, tiny minority of those leaving Syria are Christian. Even so, erasing borders is simply warfare by demographics, something that the US intelligence community blessed in Serbia, Georgia, and the Ukraine. Only the naïve would believe that erasing the border in the south (or anywhere else) is a social justice issue and not a destabilization effort intended to fundamentally change the country.
“He didn’t say we needed a Canadian wall.”
Gee, could that be because we don’t have as big a problem with illegal invaders pouring over our Canadian border as we do with our Mexican one?
Oh, but I forgot, it’s all about “xenophobia”.
Indeed. Thank you for pointing this out.
I suppose the Hungarians are all “xenophobic” since they voted by 95% to not welcome any new invaders, rapists, thieves and murderers in their midst. The Greeks, Britons, French, Germans and Scandinavians should have only been so “xenophobic.” Instead, their fair and pleasant lands have been turned into Mordor.
hilaryious
trying to credit Ted Kennedy for 11 million illegal aliens
he must really have been powerful
the wall is a joke
a political statement
a 1950 backhoe can dig a hole under a 10′ deep wall and it can be covered in plywood in a single nite
a multi billion dollar project that is going to be a target of jokes and tunneling
but I’m the idiot
Yeah, tell that to the Israelis. Their wall seems to be working just fine.
they have only started on it
it would be 403 miles long when completed
the American version would be 5 times longer
against a population intent, not on killing Americans, but working for them!
Anonymous: “…a population intent, not on killing Americans,but working for them!”
Tell that to the families of Dominic Durden, Eric Zapeda, Officer Kevin Will, Jamiel Shaw, Sgt. Brandon Mendoza, Brandy Thorne, Grant Ronneeck, Jesse Benevidas, Emily Cortez, Sviatlana Dranko, Spencer Kolvach, Margaret Kostelnik… (The list goes on and on.)
The list, Father, is endless; regrettably.
I guess we could ask at this point what is the purpose of government if it can’t secure the “domestic tranquility”? I’d say it’s not legitimate.
Just because someone is a different race it doesn’t follow that we have to let that person enter our country illegally. Cry racism and xenophobia all you want, but that’s where your ridiculous logic takes us.
A priest guards access to the Holy Mysteries, and a president guards access to Mother America. This is right and proper.
I guarantee you my taxes will NEVER fund a wall to keep out Mexican workers. The prevention of anecdotal criminal activity is not a sufficient reason to spend billions and billions.
Anonymous: “anecdotal criminal activity”.
It is hardly “anecdotal” to the bereaved families of those killed by illegals. What a shameful comment! No wonder you remain anonymous!
Anon. Building a wall to keep out Mexicans is not racist. Neither is it racist to prefer your own, it is a human reality. The word racist has become functionally meaningless simply an epithet designed to shut down any actually discussion.
Just remember in the current milleu there are some who will claim I am “a racist” simply because I am white and that it is impossible for a black person to be racist no matter how much that person may hate and despise whitey simply because of the color of our skin.
In actuality there is no such thing as race. Race is a false category created by misogynistic imperialists in England and Germany. It metastasised into The Final Solution in Germany. It is the very concept that must be fought by denying it any reality.
Everytime anyone uses the term racist they are buying into that imperialism, oppression and lies either as an imperialist or as a victim or self-righteous crusader.
Such attitudes have no place in the Church because they are fundamentally inhuman and unChristian.
It is buying into the ideological crap that passes for politics and thought in today’s nihilist society.
Real Christianity takes the divisions that exist in our hearts and through personal repentance, forgiveness, prayer and almsgiving allows the grace of God to transform the darkness and pain. Anything else is a cop-out.
Whether Ted Kennedy or Ronald Reagan is responsible for illegal immigration is, at some level, irrelevant — though the legislative record speaks for itself. The issue is why it has been allowed to happen. The political and financial establishment doesn’t care about social justice or the condition of those coming here illegally. They care about the economics of it, the existence of more bodies in the country so future generations can fight more wars, and social destabilization. They want social, cultural, and economic evolution so they can integrate the US into a larger framework to facilitate the management and allocation of resources. One need only read the mouthpieces for them, particularly the CFR’s “Foreign Affairs.” Oddly enough, supporters of Hillary don’t seem to care about war anymore and seem quite happy to ignore the anti-war left. I guess we’re all neoliberals now.
we need a wall to keep workers out
America
Anon. doesn’t care about history or the rights and prerogatives of nations and peoples. Anon. has been infected with a self-extinction protocol, an ideological meme furthered by cultural Marxism and post-structuralist theory. Where Anon. caught this meme is hard to tell — it may have been the result of causal contact in school or the result of intentional download on the part of some institution with official or government ties. Or, it may have been picked up like second hand smoke. In the end, it may not matter — it’s a virus that has spread to the body politic, resulting in the insouciance, irony, and moral fatigue of those infected. Anon. feels guilty for being the recipient of the hard work, sacrifice, and struggles of those that have fought for the ideals of this country and, as a result, has accepted a self-extinction protocol as a way of assuaging feelings of guilt.
ANNON! We need walls and enforced laws, to keep people out, regardless of race from entering our country. We can no longer, for many years now afford to support them, in terms of medical, education, imprisonment, and welfare. The rest of us will never see our tax money, work for us, when it goes to millions of illegal foreigners. Please don’t tell me they pay there fair share of taxes, or I will puke! Why is that hard to understand?
Oh, Dino! The KGB started out as THE border guards for the Soviet Union, ostensibly to keep out suspicious and criminal outsiders, The KGB never abandoned that primary mission; however, they became THE AGENCY to keep their own people confined! With walls north and south, who’s to say a crackpot won’t one day decide to make those same walls PRISON WALLS as in the Soviet Union?
Amnesty and pay taxes.
You are a fool to believe 11 million people are getting on buses and leaving tomorrow.
Tear down this wall Mr. Gorbachav, ring a bell?
Bishop Tikhon!Your Grace, quite the imagination you have. Americans trying to flee to Mexico! Come on! With the exception of a few pacifist fleeing to Canada during the Vietnam war, you’re post is just plain silly.
My guess is that the second coming, of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ would arrive, before Americans start running into Mexico, or perhaps during the resurrection. If so, so be it. Lord willing.
Trust me, from my own personal family history, I know how evil the Soviet Union was. The few stories my Grandfather could get himself to tell us, during his time in Stalin’s labor camps was horrific enough. Even as bad things seem here today or the near future, we here are far from that type of evil.
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/97800.htm
Amazing statistics of Christian Russia reborn. In the last twenty-eight years, Orthodox churches have been opening at the rate of 3 per day, over 1000 per year. About 29,000 over the period for a total of 35,000 at present. This is still short of the 60,000 or so extant before the Revolution, but it may be totally unprecedented in human history. Even during the era of Constantine it may not have flourished this way in terms of sheer numbers.
Glory to God. And for the naysayers: You are impotent to fix your own country. Have the humility not to attack another country that is not succeeding fast enough to suit you – you who are still sliding toward the pit.
BTW: This is what I have been talking about here for some time regarding the media-political Borg and the Sustainable Development Goals – from Accuracy in Media:
http://www.gopusa.com/thank-you-vladimir-putin/
“Oh, Dino! The KGB started out as THE border guards for the Soviet Union, ostensibly to keep out suspicious and criminal outsiders, . . .”
More lies from the devil’s rabbi. KGB was the successor agency to other such agencies tasked with internal security and intelligence. It did not start out as border guards.
I’m not a big fan of Trump but because many Republicans didn’t support Romney because he is a Mormon last time, we ended up with Trump. Personality, Mike Pence being VP helps. Romney losing last time led to changes in our society like the legalization of gay marriage. In fact younger people are influence by the views of presidents are moral issues. Under Obama, the nones have become popular, a large group that doesn’t go to church, whether its protestant, orthodox or Catholic even a Mormon president would not have produced the nones as much, maybe a few folks to mormomism which is bad theologically but not as bad as making more people agnoists or atheist like Obama has.
TRUMP IS A GREAT AMERICAN PATRIOT!!
APPLES! Trump is not a great American patriot at all! He’s a loudmouthed loud mouth, and he’s not done ANYTHING patriotic in his life but, perhaps, say the Pledge AND STAND FOR THE NATIONAL SONG! If that’s what makes a greatAmerican pattiot,m tell our servicemen to come home and forget offeering their lives for America as Trump never did such a thing in his life!
Well, lookee here –it seems that Putin isn’t such a bad guy after all! Thus sayeth Hillary:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/10/11/wikileaks-clinton-bragged-putin-taking-private-inner-sanctum/
Why do you breath? To blow hot air. Why is the church full of emasculated turds? Another [pusillanimous] Pharisee.
Trump is more like George Chuvalo or Oscar Bonavena.
I thought he was also channeling Mrs Palin, Fr George!
“A healthier one?” What was it with all that sniffing?” A Trump TYPE would comment, “I’m a physician and he has a clear case of social diseases in his nostrils!”
Most of the TPP is not the best trade treaty, I don’t think you are getting that much factory work or other work back to the US by Tariffs but lowering the corporate tax, Trump would have been smarter to emphasized that more and tariffs as a last result, he would have gotten more Republicans abroad. Also, whether Trump people like to admit it or not, Manufacturing and Accounting and Clerical work have been hit the hardest by automation and robotics since many service jobs need someone to interact with customers which robots can’t do now.
I wouldn’t follow either one of them to a dog fight ,( slang for toes, if it was between my toes. Don’t need to go far to see your toes fight, in fact you cant even move or you will miss the fight. The big toe always wins anyway.
I like Donald Trump. He is brash and plain spoken and says what he means. He readily admits that as the US President he will put America first. What a breath of fresh air. He is not perfect. Neither am I. But he has more money than his grandchildren’s grandchildren could ever spend. He is doing what he believes in, for the right reasons.
Compare that to Crooked Hillary. I cannot imagine a greater enemy of Orthodox people. She bragged about convincing her husband to bomb Orthodox Serbia to chase Serbs out of Kosovo, the Mount Athos of Serbia. She pushed to install a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt, and within a week a hundred Coptic Churches were in flames. Hillary Clinton is an evil woman and shame on an Orthodox person who stands with her.
You have a point about Serba it never brought up that much anymore.
I’ll allow the Hague to be my guide, not assumed angels of Orthodoxy.
The criminality was clear.
Blaming Hilary is hilarious.
Madame President for four years.
Michael wrote:
“She bragged about convincing her husband to bomb Orthodox Serbia to chase Serbs out of Kosovo, the Mount Athos of Serbia. She pushed to install a Muslim Brotherhood government in Egypt, and within a week a hundred Coptic Churches were in flames.”
Michael, don’t you know ANYTHING ABOUT SERBIA OR EGYPT?
Patriarch Pavle of blessed memory refused to own an automobile. It started when he was a Bishop: he said he refused to have a car until the poorest Albanian in Kossovo had one! There are few Albanians on Mt Athos, The Muslim Brotherhood under the government of Mubarak often PROTECTED Coptic Christians and their Churches, LONG AFTER Clinton was no longer Secretary of State, Mubarak and the Muslim Brotherhood were ousted , and the corrupt, government of SISI and his fanatic followers, NOT the Muslim Brotherhood, hounded by jihadis, were let loose against all non-Moslem minorities. It was not Clinton who got rid of democratically elected Mubarak.
Look at all the brave Americans so scared of Mexicans. It’s sad really how p-afied this country has become. Tough talking trumpets cowering in their basement. Data is meaningless to you if you have anecdotes, because anecdotes can never be proven wrong.
What’s next tough guys? Ready to take on the creepy clowns? A sad pseudo-orthodoxy, especially by a particular NE priest.
I don’t think Trump’s hideous rhetoric about unauthorized immigrants should be parroted by a priest. That seems much more shameful to me than anything Anonymous said, since ‘anecdotal’ in this context suggests a tendentious, deceitful retailing of a few isolated incidents, often mixed with a lot of falsehood and distortion, which leads to a false impression damaging to the bigger truth and feeds lying memes. And the bigger truth is that the available evidence demonstrates they are significantly less likely to commit violent crimes and property offenses than the native-born. Isn’t it possible to garner support for strengthening the border without complicity in his tactics of lies and scapegoating along with his other dark political purposes? A far more reliable source of information than Donald Trump.
About the American Immigration Council:
Mike ‘Reality Check’ Myers,
Are the Wikileaks revelations giving you any hesitation about your robotic regurgitation about the holiness of all things liberal?
The internal corruption being revealed shows the lies go deep. Do you believe the lies? I think you do.
john Pappas, have you actually READ any of the supposedly shocking revelations of Mr Assange or are you just reporting some problematic stories ABOUT THEM?/ Mr Assange’s open jealousy of Mr Snowden is breath-taking!? He sees his own star twinkling into obscurity from which it came, and promised what he has not delivered.
All things liberal?
Obama keeps beating the same war on drugs horse as the right.
And the only thing a wall really does is reduce drug flow across the border.
If you really consider all things, WikiLeaks has only accomplished one thing. Drives government and politicians underground. It is a very dangerous thing because it might drive a lunatic underground well enough that he can become President. Rest assured I do not mean Donald. He is like the Emperor strutting about….
Getting way too smelly in here for me and I’m about to bail. But first I should poll Mr. Pappas with a few questions re: what he’s suggesting. Morbid clinical interest I guess.
1) About those “all things liberal,” does this phrasing imply your opinion of well-known facts on relative rates of violent and property crimes committed by non-natives? Science, fact, reality — all those notoriously ‘liberal’ talking points rub you the wrong way, do they? I ask because you chose to make one of your generally hit-and-run cameos of juvenile sniping in reply to me pointing out elementary social science.
2) The Wikileaks “revelations” sound like mostly textbook damp squibs to me. Which ones are you particularly indignant about? And maybe you could be more specific about what any of this has to do with my alleged “robotic regurgitation” or the hesitations about that that you’re advising. As so often around here all the loose associations are really hard to track rationally. Orthodox versions of Trump rallies are getting pretty weird.
3) Related question: these “deep lies” you think I believe. Care to elaborate on that petty slur? Can you discern any deep lies coming out of Trump’s hell mouth?
4) Are you still a Trump supporter? Pro-Trump or mainly just anti-Clinton?
Mike Myers! You wrote: “Getting way too smelly in here for me and I’m about to bail.” You’re quite right. The smelliness is caused by those who reference the wind-breaking scents from the likes of wind.com, etc.
Myers, You say that it is getting way too smelly in here for you. Oh, I don’t know about that. I get the feeling that you spend a great deal of time around sewers. I also get the strong impression that you spend a great deal of time on your knees- and I don’t mean praying.
Peter Millman!n What are you thinking of? Is it a habit? If so, abandon it!
Hi Bishop Tikhon,
Out of respect for my dad, I’m really not interested in arguing with you. I will politely answer your question; I suggest that you may consider doing the same. In any event, I don’t like Myer’s snotty, sniveling attitude; he reminds me of the kind of guy I would want to slug in grade school; maybe a little tattletale, or a rat, if you will. He reminds me of Hillary Clinton’s disgusting performance in last night’s debate…Yes, my allusion to him spending a great deal of time on his knees was very crude. Since I have proven in our discussions that you are clearly overmatched when it comes to exchanging ideas with me, I would like to propose a truce. I feel very guilty when I make you look foolish. Out of love for my late dad, I don’t want to engage in insults with you. Thank you.
Peter Millman wrote this: “Since I have proven in our discussions that you are clearly overmatched when it comes to exchanging ideas with me, I would like to propose a truce.”
A truce? That “since” clause makes your proposal of a truce look alternately hypocritical and delusional, but, out of respect for your late dad, I’ll leave it at that, except to refer once again to Mark Twain, whom I’m sure your late dad must have admired: “Noise proves nothing: often a hen, after merely laying an egg, will cackle as if she had laid an asteroid!”
Good one, your Grace, good one. Still feisty in your eighties.
Mr. Myers:
The names of those I mentioned as killed by illegals were not made up by me, nor did I learn about them from Mr. Trump. They are actual, real world people who were lost to their families and loved ones at the hands of illegal aliens; they are hardly “anecdotal”, “myths” or “hideous rhetoric”. You defame their memory by characterizing them as such. And I could have included many, many more.
What is most truly shameful here is your “parroting” of the “Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.” attitude that has made a serious problem even worse.
I think you know that’s a quite dishonest distortion of what I said. Not going to descend any further into the mud of this sort of bogus grandstanding on a complicated issue, Father. You get the last word.
The crimes do not herald the government spending more billions and billions of dollars on a wall that will be easily penetrated.
There was never any intent to belittle the lives of the fallen.
There is a sound solution to the border issue. Open door policy and closed the doors to criminals. Then anyone coming across is charged with a crime.
No more people living in the shadows.
Again, you can’t (or won’t) explain to me how the Israeli’s wall works so well.
We’ll leave aside the fact (for now) that they sterilize black “Jews” from Ethiopia, place thousands of illegal immigrants in concentration camps and then forcibly evict them after they are processed.
I heartily invite all of you that have Wikileaks-educated and Google-schooled yourselves about this issue of the International Border, illegal immigrants, the effectiveness of walls, ICE, illegal immigrant criminals in CA state prisons released into the custody of the Immigration & Naturalization Service for processing and deportation to Mexico – and in fact to destinations around the world – to get your dumb asses on a plane and come and witness for yourself the total waste of finances and resources on mutually idiotic systems that are non-functional and ineffectual. By the way, you are aware that on the November ballot is a proposition to legalize marijuana? What is the likelihood that will fail when one of the major selling points is to end the horrible cartel violence, the endless cost in attempting to enforce the import and – the freaking wall! – stop the drug lords from bringing in tons of marijuana, heroin, cocaine and illegal immigrants through tunnels under the stupid wall! For years, I went down to walk the border for several miles, photographing people pouring over, under, through, and around the end of the massive green wall that separates our countries…
UCSD Medical Center and Scripps Mercy Hospital, literally within view of one another, and two of the finest research trauma centers in the US are so inundated with illegal immigrants that they have threatened Gov. Jerry Brown with moving their facilities to their outlying medical centers that are inaccessible to public transportation unless they are bailed out of their financial deficits. Medical, educational, social service, law enforcement, and all financial resources are pushed to the limit in San Diego County and no one – literally no one – knows the extent of actual illegal immigrants in the county. And at the same time, among the cities with the greatest influx of Hispanic immigrants, legal & illegal (Los Angeles, San Diego and El Paso, as well as New York, Chicago, and Miami) they are not over-represented as either victims or perpetrators of any crime, violent or otherwise.
Plenty of these people are the same ones I have mentioned time and again who find work every single morning for white people doing day labor – and if I’m not mistaken patrick, that would be referred to as “hard work, sacrifice, and struggles” – that white people will not do themselves. They are essential to the CA economy. We plan to put these people on buses and deport them to be replaced by whom to do, for example, backbreaking strawberry picking from dawn to dark for you? Or for fresh green beans, or on and on as the prices for fresh produce triples and quadruples. And what of the naturalized citizens who have sick parents they care for in Mexico who haven’t won the “lottery” for a “fast pass” across the International Border, who leave for work in the US at 3:00 am and wait in traffic for 2-3 hours to work as a tech or as a janitor in my wife’s clinic? And all the the dumbass, non-violent drug offenders I’ve met doing minimal time in state prison, born in the US to illegal immigrant parents, picked up by ICE at the gate on their exit and literally dropped off in Tijuana – having never been in Mexico in their entire lives, some not even able to speak Spanish.
You take an extraordinarily complex human tragedy – and whether it is an American problem in its origin or not, it most certainly has become our problem – and imagine deportation and a wall will even begin to address the enormity and ferociousness of the problem. The dangerousness and demonization of illegal immigrants is an unjustified and unsubstantiated generalization that is racist, and when, ever, has a simple solution short of outright persecution, successfully “solved” such a complex social problem?
Be careful, Dr S. By justifying the current economic regime of imported peonage, you are traveling down the same road of intellectuals in the Antebellum South in that slavery was likewise “essential” to the Southern economy. That’s why they were fed, clothed and housed at greater expense than the proletariate in the North.
And like the Southern whites, illegal alien employment depresses the wages of native Americans considerably. Eventually, the vicious spiral is well-nigh impossible to break.
First of all, as George has pointed out repeatedly, the Israeli wall works pretty well.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/israel-s-anti-terror-fence-the-wall-around-the-west-bank-a-779222.html
It works so well that the main argument is about deviation from the prior agreed borders rather than effectiveness.
Really, what needs to be done is to make the South a homeland for African Americans and the North and homeland for Northern Europeans. As a southerner, of sorts, I hate to say it, but demographically that is what needs to be done. There would thus be a “hood” in between Mexico and the Northern lands which would dissuade illegal immigration. The Scots-Irish-British, etc. are Northern people, like the Rus. I do not suggest that there be homelands to which people must adhere. Just a homebase of sorts, which is considered ones “hood”. Travel and relocation would be possible, of course, just like in Russia. You just don’t want to upset the demographic habitats. I’m not proposing apartheid, no firm rules about who exactly lives where. But concentrations should be maintained. It would not be hard. Blacks and Latinos don’t like the colder weather. Northerners are fine with it. Perfectly natural.
A mosaic, not a melting pot. And therein lies the peace.
Misha, for what it’s worth, the Northern tier of states west of the Mississippi were created with this implicit goal in mind. In the early part of the 20th Century, the KKK was very powerful (in sub rosa fashion) in the legislatures of Oregon and Washington State. They put in explicit laws forbidding blacks from migrating there from the South and after a few decades, when these laws were struck down, the localities instituted onerous zoning laws which made it next-to-impossible for blacks to own businesses and homes. That’s the main reason that Portland, Oregon is the whitest city in the nation.
As for the New England states, they are overwhelmingly white. This overpowering white demographic is the major reason that these states form the bulwark of the “Blue Electoral Wall”: homogeneous societies view themselves as commonwealths and have no problem redistributing wealth among their own kind.
Justifying, Mr. Michalopulos? I believe that is a complete mischaracterization of my point. I was merely pointing out that, on the one hand, taking advantage of illegal immigrants who cannot negotiate better wages & benefits for hard labor – labor white people will not do themselves for even minimum wage – yet blaming them for depressing the wages of native Americans is hypocrisy, at best, and unconscionable at the worst. My brother, for example, has a friend who is a naturalized Mexican immigrant with a gardening & landscaping business – obviously diminished by the drought emergency in CA – who has a constant turnover of legal workers who are undependable, poor workers, etc. while his competition, who hire illegal day labourers has no such problems, and pays them less. The same is true of tile roofing (many municipalities require tile because of the fire hazard), construction, food service, and so on. You are presuming the issue necessarily is a matter of wages, and it is not. The owners of the cafe in the suburbs of Chicago I spoke with over the summer said exactly the same thing: on a rare occasion they have hired an illegal worker who literally begged for a job because they were desperate, in every case – and I acknowledge the anecdotal nature of their report – they were excellent workers, and the owners later assisted them in beginning the immigration process. I say again, this is an extraordinarily complex problem that has woven itself into the fabric of our country – perhaps not so obviously as in SoCal – but obvious enough to warrant more serious addressing than we are providing.
Well, white people and few blacks don’t want to do farm labor, I think they need to reform the work visa on that. As for other jobs, work visas need to be reform even Trump wanted people to go home and reapply for a work visa, most of those jobs would be in textiles in Los Angeles, maids work in Houston and some cooks. In Arizona, some whites and native born Latinos don’t like roofing because its hot. The work visa system needs an improvement so people don’t overstay it.
Cynthia, blacks and poor whites used to do farm (or “stoop”) labor all the time. That’s what the Okies who decamped for California during the Dust Bowl wanted to do. It’s just now that Welfare has made it convenient to not do so.
True story: when I was a teenager, all the lawn work in most middle and working class neighborhoods was done by this strange class of people called “teenagers.” (I had the monopoly on Indian Street where my family lived.) In the more well-heeled areas, black men had the monopoly on it. They charged more and were able to actually support their families doing so.
Actually, a lot of second and 3rd generation Latinos are more willing to vote Republican than blacks are. For example, Trump gets 33 percent of the Latino vote in Nevada and only 4 percent of the black vote in North Carolina. Enforcing the rules but not alienating all the Latinos would be the way to go for the Republicans.
I don’t think I disagree with anything Michael says. The only thing I would say is that these people that come into our country as Illegal Immigrant simply want what all human beings want. To earn a living so as to take care of their families and loved ones. I do not disparage the illegal Immigrant for wanting in America what he cannot get in Mexico, which is a fail Narco-State.
Those I do blame and have always blamed are the businesses that use them and abuse them and then when they are done with them throw them out like garbage. In fact, while working for businesses here in America they are treated like garbage. This all with the tacit approval of the GOPe and the DEMS.
Actually enforcing our immigration laws and keeping illegals in Mexico will force our businesses to either treat them fairly and thus have some type of worker visa program installed where they earn an actual minimum wage and get access to services and benefits that, due to their non-citizen status, their employers will have to give them, even if they are seasonal workers.
The illegal immigrant should not be punished, but the businesses should be. I wish I had all the answers, but I don’t, but to start is to get a wall and stem the influx of illegals that are being used and abused by Businesses and allow those that are here to be Americanized. Amnesty, as much as I do not like it as it is a violation of our immigration laws, will have to be considered as both the DEMS and the GOPe created this problem and it needs to be fixed. However, it cannot be fixed on the backs of the immigrant. They suffered enough. The Wall is not just for their benefit, but also for ours and those that will remain and need time to become Americans. Not just legally but culturally as well.
Peter
Great post Peter! Agree 100 percent. Sad that our lawmakers won’t enforce our laws, and protect our borders!
Calling it “sad” is not enough.
J Clivas, You correct, It’s treason, and criminal!
George, the main reason Israel’s law is perceived as working well is that that wall is totally superfluous! Israel is an ethnic unit. Outsiders are identified automatically with or without any wall!
Anecdote – albeit related to the most tragic of circumstances – in nevertheless anecdote, and one of the poorest reasons to make anything likened to a policy decision or other decision of consequence. Major decisions based on emotion alone does no service to the memory of anyone and is a parlour trick at best.
“In 2013 and 2014 alone, ICE set loose more than 66,000 illegal immigrant criminals who had over 166,000 convictions (30,000 for drunk or drug driving, 414 kidnapping, over 11,000 rapes or other sexual assaults and 395 homicides). Already thousands of those have already been convicted of new crimes in the U.S., including felonies, since their release.”
http://www.wnd.com/2015/10/astonishing-crime-stats-for-illegal-aliens/
Here’s some info for anyone more interested in facts than intentionally deceptive propaganda catapulted by bigots. Humane immigration enforcement realities under the rule of law are complicated. But the truth is that deportation rates of criminal aliens under President Obama have nearly doubled compared to rates under the previous Administration. Unfortunately, so have deportations of the relatively innocent.
Most of these releases from ICE custody into the supervised custody of the states were nothing more sinister than mandatory compliance with Federal law, though we get that many of you fanboys would prefer the Putinesque dictatorship your “alpha male” conman dog-whistles non-stop. Nevertheless the United States can enforce the southern border without the sort of thugocracy you dream of. We would have been well on our way by now, too, were it not for the spreading of fraud by CSI, Fox News, Limbaugh, Klan Koulter, Ingraham, breitbart, DailyStormer et al., and, in its petty but still ambitious way, Monomakhos — with the help of low-info correspondents like “Centurion.”
In FY 2013:
• ICE conducted a total of 368,644 removals.
• ICE conducted 133,551 removals of individuals apprehended in the interior of the U.S.
o 82 percent of all interior removals had been previously convicted of a crime.
• ICE conducted 235,093 removals of individuals apprehended along our borders while attempting
to unlawfully enter the U.S.1
• 59 percent of all ICE removals, a total of 216,810, had been previously convicted of a crime.
o ICE apprehended and removed 110,115 criminals removed from the interior of the U.S.
o ICE removed 106,695 criminals apprehended at the border while attempting to unlawfully enter the U.S.
• 98 percent of all ICE FY 2013 removals, a total of 360,313, met one or more of ICE’s stated civil immigration enforcement priorities.
• Of the 151,834 removals of individuals without a criminal conviction, 84 percent, or 128,398, were apprehended at the border while attempting to unlawfully enter the U.S. and 95 percent fell within one of ICE’s stated immigration enforcement priorities. [ICE.gov, accessed 3/31/14]
patrick says:
October 7, 2016 at 5:10 pm
Anon. doesn’t care about history or the rights and prerogatives of nations and peoples. Anon. has been infected with a self-extinction protocol, an ideological meme furthered by cultural Marxism and post-structuralist theory. Where Anon. caught this meme is hard to tell — it may have been the result of causal contact in school or the result of intentional download on the part of some institution with official or government ties. Or, it may have been picked up like second hand smoke. In the end, it may not matter — it’s a virus that has spread to the body politic, resulting in the insouciance, irony, and moral fatigue of those infected. Anon. feels guilty for being the recipient of the hard work, sacrifice, and struggles of those that have fought for the ideals of this country and, as a result, has accepted a self-extinction protocol as a way of assuaging feelings of guilt.
‘Patrick’ has been educated at the Dunning Kruger Medical Institute!
No wonder he is a Trump supporter-they are fellow alums.
Does the DKMI teach that the highest year for illegal immigration was 2000? Let’s see which party was presiding over the ranch at that time?
Thanks for the diagnosis – I think you nailed it!
PS I think you left the door unlocked tonight.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/opinion/erick-erickson-the-gop-after-donald-trump.html?em_pos=large&emc=edit_ty_20161014&nl=opinion-today&nlid=76729875&ref=headline&te=1
Article by Erick Erickson on how to hep the Republican party
Erickson is not only a cuck but a fool. Does he honestly think that any resolute man will run as a Republican for the Presidency ever again? Especially when his opponents are not men of their word? This is foolishness. My enemies I can understand for hating me, but my partisans?
This is the cuck part of Erickson’s idiocy: whenever a Republican candidate is called out for some sin (alleged or real), he’s supposed to fold like a cheap date and quiver in shame like a cowering child who’s about to get spanked.
Thanks to the cultural Marxist stranglehold on morality, the Left holds an assassin’s veto over any true conservative who deigns to go off the reservation. Erickson’s job –and those like him on FOX–is to police the boundaries of what is acceptable. Trump has upset the official playbook that is used by the political profiteers and is in the process of smashing their iron rice bowl.
Another very very basic part of getting elected to a major office is to have your people do a thorough self-vetting and come up with effective and realistic strategies for dealing with these skeletons when they inevitably come out. We all knew this stuff was there on Trump because he told us they were there with his life and words.
It is one of the facts of nature akin to gravity that if a Republican is leading or threatening to come from behind in the polls that the Dems and the media will go into overdrive to publicize as much dirt — real or imagined (remember what an evil man that Boy Scout Mitt Romney was by this point 4 years ago?)– to discredit him. On Trump they don’t even have to make stuff up.
Trump is fundamentally hated, yes, because he represents a threat to the established order of both parties, but he is going to lose, and lose big, because he has run a terrible campaign on elementary fundamentals (without even getting to the finer points). He is going to win a share of the vote that represents the hard core Republicans who would vote for a convicted felon over a Democrat, and will add some independents fed up with the system. But that takes him to about 40% at best. The bare, basic necessity of anyone who wants to be President requires making himself acceptable to enough of the rest to get up to about 47% in a year like this, and Trump hasn’t had the self-discipline to figure out how to do that. This race was over before it started.
You are absolutely correct, Edward. You would think that after four different campaign managers (A resounding “You’re fired” apparently became commonplace in Trump Tower), they would have straightened out their strategy and anticipated what happened. He is going to lose big, because he is unfit to be president. His track record of ridiculing the handicapped, groping women, and inexperience with domestic and foreign policy, just among a few, all spell failure for him at the polls.
What I think is funny is the left thinks all Trump’s followers are Christians among the alt-right about 10 percent are pagans, worshiping Thor or Woden. Yet, the left thinks everyone on the right is a christian.
A German might comment on George’s made-up and corny expletives, “Pfui! Kuckuk!”
Wikileaks & 9/11 I cannot believe what I am reading!
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Mike sent a message using the contact form at
https://www.stratfor.com/contact.
In a few days it will be the tenth anniversary of September 11, 2001. How
well has the US government’s official account of the event held up over the
decade?
Not very well. The chairman, vice chairman, and senior legal counsel of the
9/11 Commission wrote books partially disassociating themselves from the
commission’s report. They said that the Bush administration put obstacles
in their path, that information was withheld from them, that President Bush
agreed to testify only if he was chaperoned by Vice President Cheney and
neither were put under oath, that Pentagon and FAA officials lied to the
commission and that the commission considered referring the false testimony
for investigation for obstruction of justice.
In their book, the chairman and vice chairman, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton,
wrote that the 9/11 Commission was set up to fail. Senior counsel John
Farmer, Jr., wrote that the US government made a decision not to tell the
truth about what happened, and that the NORAD tapes told a radically
different story from what had been told to us and the public. Kean said,
We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was
just so far from the truth.
Most of the questions from the 9/11 families were not answered. Important
witnesses were not called. The commission only heard from those who supported
the government’s account. The commission was a controlled political
operation, not an investigation of events and evidence. Its membership
consisted of former politicians. No knowledgeable experts were appointed to
the commission.
One member of the 9/11 Commission, former Senator Max Cleland, responded to
the constraints placed on the commission by the White House: If this
decision stands, I, as a member of the commission, cannot look any American
in the eye, especially family members of victims, and say the commission had
full access. This investigation is now compromised. Cleland resigned
rather than have his integrity compromised.
To be clear, neither Cleland nor members of the commission suggested that
9/11 was an inside job to advance a war agenda. Nevertheless, neither
Congress nor the media wondered, at least not out loud, why President Bush
was unwilling to appear before the commission under oath or without Cheney,
why Pentagon and FAA officials lied to the commission or, if the officials
did not lie, why the commission believed they lied, or why the White House
resisted for so long any kind of commission being formed, even one under its
control.
One would think that if a handful of Arabs managed to outwit not merely the
CIA and FBI but all 16 US intelligence agencies, all intelligence agencies of
our allies including Mossad, the National Security Council, the State
Department, NORAD, airport security four times on one morning, air traffic
control, etc., the President, Congress, and the media would be demanding to
know how such an improbable event could occur. Instead, the White House put
up a wall of resistance to finding out, and Congress and the media showed
little interest.
During the decade that has passed, numerous 9/11 Truth organizations have
formed.
There are Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Firefighters for 9/11
Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Remember Building
7.org, and a New York group which includes 9/11 families. These groups call
for a real investigation.
David Ray Griffen has written 10 carefully researched books documenting
problems in the government’s account. Scientists have pointed out that the
government has no explanation for the molten steel. NIST has been forced to
admit that WTC 7 was in free fall for part of its descent, and a scientific
team led by a professor of nano-chemistry at the University of Copenhagen has
reported finding nano-thermite in the dust from the buildings.
Larry Silverstein, who had the lease on the World Trade Center buildings,
said in a PBS broadcast that the decision was made “to pull†Building 7
late in the afternoon of 9/11. Chief fire marshals have said that no forensic
investigation was made of the buildings’ destruction and that the absence
of investigation was a violation of law.
Some efforts have been made to explain away some of the evidence that is
contrary to the official account, but most of the contrary evidence is simply
ignored. The fact remains that the skepticism of a large number of
knowledgeable experts has had no effect on the government’s position other
than a member of the Obama administration suggesting that the government
infiltrate the 9/11 truth organizations in order to discredit them.
The practice has been to brand experts not convinced by the government’s
case as conspiracy theorists. But of course the government’s own theory
is a conspiracy theory, an even less likely one once a person realizes its
full implication of intelligence and operational failures. The implied
failures are extraordinarily large; yet,
no one was ever held accountable.
Moreover, what do 1,500 architects and engineers have to gain from being
ridiculed as conspiracy theorists? They certainly will never receive another
government contract, and many surely lost business as a result of their
anti-American stance. Their competitors must have made hay out of their
unpatriotic doubts. Indeed, my reward for reporting on how matters
stand a decade after the event will be mail telling me that as I hate America
so much I should move to Cuba.
Scientists have even less incentive to express any doubts, which probably
explains why there are not 1,500 Physicists for 9/11 Truth. Few physicists
have careers independent of government grants or contracts. It was a high
school physics teacher who forced NIST to abandon its account of Building
7’s demise. Physicist Stephen Jones, who first reported finding evidence of
explosives, had his tenure bought out by BYU, which no doubt found itself
under government pressure.
We can explain away contrary evidence as coincidences and mistakes and
conclude that only the government got it all correct, the same government
that got everything else wrong.
In fact, the government has not explained anything. The NIST report is merely
a simulation of what might have caused the towers to fail if NIST’s
assumptions programed into the computer model are correct. But NIST supplies
no evidence that its assumptions are correct.
Building 7 was not mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report, and many
Americans are still unaware that three buildings came down on 9/11.
Let me be clear about my point. I am not saying that some black op group in
the neoconservative Bush administration blew up the buildings in order to
advance the neoconservative agenda of war in the Middle East. If there is
evidence of a coverup, it could be the government covering up its
incompetence and not its complicity in the event. Even if there were definite
proof of government complicity, it is uncertain that Americans could accept
it. Architects, engineers, and scientists live in a fact-based community, but
for most people facts are no match for emotions.
My point is how uninquisitive the executive branch including the security
agencies, Congress, the media, and much of the population are about the
defining event of our time.
There is no doubt that 9/11 is the determinant event. It has led to a decade
of ever expanding wars, to the shredding of the Constitution, and to a police
state. On August 22 Justin Raimondo reported that he and his website,
Antiwar.com, are being monitored by the FBI’s Electronic Communication
Analysis Unit to determine if Antiwar.com is a threat to National
Security working on behalf of a foreign power.
Francis A. Boyle, an internationally known professor and attorney of
international law, has reported that when he refused a joint FBI-CIA request
to violate the attorney/client privilege and become an informant on his
Arab-American clients, he was placed on the US government’s terrorist watch
list.
Boyle has been critical of the US government’s approach to the Muslim
world, but Raimondo has never raised, nor permitted any contributor to raise,
any suspicion about US government complicity in 9/11. Raimondo merely opposes
war, and that is enough for the FBI to conclude that he needs watching as a
possible threat to national security.
The US government’s account of 9/11 is the foundation of the open-ended
wars that are exhausting America’s resources and destroying its reputation,
and it is the foundation of the domestic police state that ultimately will
shut down all opposition to the wars. Americans are bound to the story of the
9/11 Muslim terrorist attack, because it is what justifies the slaughter of
civilian populations in several Muslim countries, and it justifies a domestic
police state as the only means of securing safety from terrorists, who
already have morphed into domestic extremists such as
environmentalists, animal rights groups, and antiwar activists.
Today Americans are unsafe, not because of terrorists and domestic
extremists, but because they have lost their civil liberties and have no
protection from unaccountable government power. One would think that how this
came about would be worthy of public debate and congressional hearings.
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was appointed by President Reagan Assistant Secretary
of the U.S. Treasury and confirmed by the US Senate. He was Associate Editor
and columnist with the Wall Street Journal, and he served on the personal
staffs of Representative Jack Kemp and Senator Orrin Hatch. He was staff
associate of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, staff associate
of the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, and Chief Economist, Republican
Staff, House Budget Committee. He wrote the Kemp-Roth tax rate reduction
bill, and was a leader in the supply-side revolution. He was professor of
economics in six universities, and is the author of numerous books and
scholarly contributions. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30
occasions.
Source:
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110905-911-and-successful-war?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20110906&utm_term=gweekly&utm_content=readmore&elq=f53f70081857454fb3361b88a62409fb
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There is more, MUCH MORE! This email makes the case that 9/11 MAY have been an inside job even though the email explicitly denies this. However the next email has no doubts on this issue. My God was 9/11 truly an inside job?
Peter
Well that’s strange? I had an email that I was going to get off of wikileaks to supplement the first one I posted and that email is gone. the tag line is there, but I can’t open the email. If anyone can get on Wikileaks and get the email that talks about the nano-thermite and posted that would be great. For some reason I cannot open it. I apologize.
Peter
Peter, for what it’s worth, I’ve heard that if you click on a Wikileaks link you might get a “visit” in the near future.
Great now you tell me.
Peter
Completely false. I’ve read plenty of wikileaks and I know someone who actually cited them in a published work, and neither of us was ever visited by anyone.
You seem to be very eager to believe everything that fits your preconceived ideologies, but too bad the world doesn’t work that way.
Not “completely” false. I never said “everyone” who clicks on Wikileaks will be “visited” by somebody. I mentioned that I read that some who did so were visited.
Seriously, even in a totalitarian state not everyone is persecuted or arrested or tortured or imprisoned or executed. In some totalitarian states one might even have a good chance of skating by and profiting from others’ misfortunes. (The young Gyorgi Schwartz did so while a teenager in Hungary.) That doesn’t mean that reasonable men would want to stake their fortunes in such a polity. I certainly don’t.
Everything is being tracked and saved. Your ISP has a direct connection to your computer and can see everything unless you have installed your own firewall. All browsing history is kept by them too. You have no idea when this history will be retrieved and for what purpose.
If you spend some time investigating, you will find there are quite a lot of people that have been “investigated” that have tried to question the official narrative.
George M. wrote; “Peter, for what it’s worth, I’ve heard that if you click on a Wikileaks link you might get a “visit” in the near future.”
“For what it’s worth. Really? It’s worth ZERO.