Vegas: What Happened?

Some of you have taken me to task for not writing about the recent atrocity in Las Vegas. As you all know by now, fifty-eight people were killed and over five hundred wounded at a Country Music festival held in the vicinity of the Mandalay Bay Hotel.

The alleged shooter, one Stephen Paddock, 64, was either killed or committed suicide. From the outset, things didn’t seem to add up. For one thing, Paddock was a multi-millionaire who regularly frequented casinos. As a high-roller (aka a “whale”) he was usually “comped”; in other words his lodging and meals were on the house.

Secondly, there was no indication that he was either political or religious. In other words, he wasn’t driven by either ideological hatreds (a la Timothy McVeigh) or religious ones (such as Omar Mateen).

The plot continues to thicken. Now, a new wrinkle has been uncovered. Jesus Campos, the hotel security guard who last saw Paddock, has disappeared. He was going to go on The Hannity Show sometime this week but for whatever reason, he’s nowhere to be found.

For a brief analysis of the crumbling Las Vegas narrative, please go to The Still Report. (Click on below.) More to follow as events warrant.

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Comments

  1. Nate Trost says:

    Bailing from media interviews is not the same as disappearing off the face of the earth. Although in American culture, eschewing celebrity is seen as suspicious!

    One of the reasons people like George Michalopulos rush to conspiracy theories to explain the atrocity committed by Stephen Paddock is simple: because what he did was accomplishable by most people in America who woke up one morning and decided they wanted to set a high score for murder. And that’s an uncomfortable truth to face.

    What Stephen Paddock did required no special training or skill. Spraying a packed crowd with bullets didn’t require marksmanship.

    What Stephen Paddock did required no special privileges or rights, other than having several thousand dollars to spend on guns, ammunition and accessories (Paddock spent more than that, but had way more hardware in his room than he actually needed to commit his atrocity).

    • George Michalopulos says:

      Nate, neither you nor I nor anybody else reading this blog knows the full story. All that we know for sure is that the official narrative continues to change. A reasonable man would think that such meandering merits skepticism.

      Color me skeptical. I should have been skeptical back in 2002 when the Iraq WMD story first gained traction –courtesy of The New York Times, CNN, Fox and the rest of the Corporate Media.

      Once burnt, twice shy.

      • Nate and George,
        The only reason I can accept the NRA and Semi-auto rifles being sold, is that it’s much more preferable than a government that does not allow citizens to have semi auto firearms. Far more governments, usually Socialist/ Communist, have already killed far more people than one or two people roughly per year with an automatic weapon. Americans will never be sheep lead to would be slaughters, so long as our government knows it will sustain a fight. So as long as we are allowed weapons and bullets, the math is in our favor.

        • George Michalopulos says:

          Interesting, Dino, isn’t it? According to the Englightened, Orange Hitler is now Fuhrer of America. And yet they trust his regime with all our guns?

          Hey all you proglibs out there: this kind of thinking is called cognitive dissonance; trying to hold two contradictory thoughts at one time. It doesn’t work, eventually your heads will explode.

          I’ll make it easy for you. Since you think guns are evil, just turn them all over to right-wingers. And while your at it, all the one, two, twenty, fifty and hundred dollar bills have slave-owners pictured on them. Since you’re so exercised by them, mail all those bills to me.

          • People will never get it until it happens to them or a family member. My Grandfather, on my father’s side and nearly all of the young Greek men in his town, in Soviet, Georgia, in the late 1930’s, were rounded up simply because Stalin wanted free slave labor. Nothing could be done other than line up, and get on the train. Most never returned. My Grandmother, on my mother’s side was literally forcefully pushed out of Smyrna, because the Turks thought is was a good idea. Luckily put on a boat in a lagoon turn red with blood and floating bodies, with only the clothes on their back, and a key to their home, to which they never returned to.

            In the twentieth century at least 150 million people were murdered by their governments. Most by China, and The Soviet Union, but their were many other countries as well who found the; “NO GUNS, NO RESISTANCE” “NO MAN, NO PROBLEM” theory served their countries well.

            I fear governments, more than individual shooters.

            • Estonian Slovak says:

              Ever wonder since the Turks lost WW I, why the West did nothing to protect the Greek victims of Turkish genocide back then?

              • George Michalopulos says:

                I do, I have my own suspicions.

                Anybody want to comment?

                • Michael Bauman says:

                  There is a bias in Western foreign policy against Traditional Christianity. It is seen as non-progressive and unenlightened.

                • Estonian Slovak says:

                  I also recall my eighth grade teacher in the mid-sixties wondering why we let Stalin have Eastern Europe after WW II when we had the bomb and he didn’t.

                  • George Michalopulos says:

                    ES, that’s a really good question. My cursory opinion is that Stalin was already sitting on Eastern Europe with over a million heavily-armed men. The real question was: was this because of a pre-arrangement or because of military circumstances? Why for example did Ike hold back Patton from gaining additional ground? At the rate he was going he could have been in Berlin before the Soviets and what’s more, the Germans would have eagerly surrendered to him –as opposed to the Soviets whom they were fighting tooth and nail.

              • Tim R. Mortiss says:

                The “West”? What is the “West”? The so-called West on the one hand knew nothing about it, on the other hand, wouldn’t have cared back then. Why or how could it have been otherwise?

                So, George, what are your suspicions? Some complex conspiracy?

                I suppose, as a man of the “West”, I would say that it’s hard to keep up with the affairs of the East. To say the least! The whole point of most who moved to the West was to leave all of those incomprehensible, endless controversies and hatreds behind forever. There all always a few who nurture them still, though.

                After all, WWI ended 99 years ago. But the resentments still seem to be fresh– among some.

                Why did the West “do nothing”? Because it had no reason at all to do anything.

                As a collateral example, my wife’s maternal Croatian grandfather came here in 1916 as a 16-year-old. The immediate reason was to avoid being conscripted into the Austrian army. I knew him well, for several years before he died. He would say, speaking of Yugoslavia, that it was all madness, never ending. Subsequent events after his departure hardly contradicted this…..

                Here, he came to own a large fishing boat, was a very successful Alaska/Puget Sound fisherman, had a big family, made 50 gallons of wine a year, died in bed a happy and fulfilled old man. I loved that guy. He had no illusions about the “old world” and did not hesitate to say so.

                • George Michalopulos says:

                  It’s easy to conflate complex issues into simple monikers: the “West”, the Masons, the International Communist Conspiracy, the Zionists, etc.

                  As for Smyrna and its aftermaths (i.e. the Treaty of Lausanne), it’s rather simple: the Bank of London wanted access to the Kirkuk oil fields and made a side deal with Ataturk. They’d recognize his revolutionary government in return for Kirkuk. The question is, was Ataturk (a rabid Westernizer) a Freemason or just a sympathizer? His biographers disagree.

                  I will say this as far as low-Church Protestantism and Freemasonry is concerned, the antipathy towards Catholicism as well as all high-Church forms of Christianity is well known. As we saw from the recent post about the Shriners, this could have only been the product of a curious Islamophilia –one unknowable to Central and Eastern (i.e. Catholic and Orthodox) Europeans.

                  Take that for what it’s worth.

                  • Tim R. Mortiss says:

                    The Americans who founded the Shrine branch of Masonry did so as a “fun/fellowship” sideline to regular Masons. They would have had no contact at all with Islam or Moslem nations. Their “Islamism” was pure 19th century Western romantic orientalism; pure exoticism. Thus also the fezzes and baggy pants.

                    The 19th century was a big time in America for fraternal organizations of all kinds.

                    But to those who want to take this history seriously as regards the state of the modern world and its conspiracies, go ahead!

                    • Peter Ray Millman says:

                      Tim,
                      This is a really good posts. The proscription against membership in the Masonic Lodge by the Catholic Church is because of Roman Catholic bigotry. I have read so much anti- Masonic literature by bigots that all I can do is laugh.

                      Let me emphatically state: freemasonry is not a religion, and its tenets are not in the slightest, least bit at variance or hostile to the Church in way, shape or form. It is a fraternal organization and brotherhood. Freemasonry has no plan for salvation; that is up to each brother Mason.
                      I was a Mason for four years, in line to become Master of my Lodge. In all that time, I never saw or participated in anything I was ashamed of, or was inimical to the Christian faith. The only reason I left the lodge was because I was bored with the ritual. The Masons are an excellent organization dedicated to philanthropy, goodwill, and brotherhood. Remember, there is no higher degree than that of Master Mason in the Blue Lodge.

                    • George Michalopulos says:

                      Agreed, they are philanthropists per excellence. The question for me at least was that its Deism invariably leads to religious syncretism. In other words, ecumenism of the worst sort.

                      Having said that, its hand in the various revolutionary movements over the last two centuries is cause for concern. I’m glad of the American Revolution but most all others (e.g. French, the Paris Commune, the overthrow of the Tsar, etc.*) has been been odious.

                      *Notice I did not say the Bolshevik Revolution. The Commies didn’t overthrow the Tsar, it was the liberals, progressives, and republicans who overthrew the Tsar. The provisional government of Kerensky was riddled with Freemasons, Rosicrucians and Theosophists.

                    • Joseph Lipper says:

                      The “exoticism” of Freemason ritual may be part of it’s appeal, although I’m sure that many have found it to be very silly and tiresome, and a testing of one’s patience. Most people probably don’t join because of the silly rituals, but rather they join because of an interest in being part of a greater fraternal organization. However, this “exoticism” of the Freemason ritual would probably be something completely lacking in the non-ritualistic Protestant denominations that many Freemasons are acquainted with.

                      In the Orthodox Church, however, we have a very full liturgical ritual with icons, altars, clergy, ornate vestments, candles, incense, bells, and even clergy who wear Turkish styled hats. Freemason “exoticism” probably pales in comparison to the ritual of the Orthodox Church. Freemason ritual is based on lies and nonsense. Orthodox ritual is based on Truth.

                    • George Michalopulos says:

                      Very true, Joseph. At one time, when I was a young man, I joined the Lodge and imbibed it’s ethos (that is, that it’s not a religion). That’s debatable, after a few years it seemed to me that it was a religion. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc. One thing that can not be disputed is that it’s very liturgical.

                      Being an Orthodox Christian I picked up its ritualism almost instantly and after awhile, got rather bored. Because let’s face it, no one does liturgy like the Orthodox. I intuited that the massive popularity of Freemasonry in the Protestant West was because the loss of liturgy brought on by the Reformation. I can’t speak for women but I fervently believe that the male of the species needs ritual so he’s going to get it one way or the other.

                    • Peter Ray Millman says:

                      This is for George: You can get freemasonry from the lodge or you can get it from the Pope. He adheres to indifferentism more than most Masons.

                      In my post about freemasonry, I didn’t want to leave anyone with the idea that an Orthodox Christian should be a member of the lodge. The lodge had its apogee of popularity in the 1960s. When you have Christ, you have more than all the light you will ever need.

                  • George and Tim,

                    I don’t know the who’s and why’s. What I can tell you is what my Grandmother told me who was there. Greeks, Turks, Jews, and Armenians, lived in peace for a long time in Smyrna. Then the Greeks decided to come make a little visit, let’s say they ruffled some feathers and mistreated a few Turks in Smyrna. Well after causing some trouble, they all decided to take all their weapons and leave the citizens of Smyrna, to the mercy of Turkey. Well the Turkish Government troops came, with their weapons, and there was hell to pay for the Greeks and Armenians. The Jewish quarter was left alone. Her father was a chief-engineer on a ship, which no doubt saved our family.

                  • Tim R. Mortiss says:

                    Another somewhat interesting footnote is the photos of long-ago Ahepa, that are found in my church; probably from the ’20s and ’30s.

                    All are wearing fezzes….

                    Most of the early congregation were Marmara Greeks, after the “population exchange”. So they probably were well acquainted with the realities of Islam.

      • Jim of Olym says:

        George, do you use Water Smacker?
        Just wondering.

  2. Bishop Tikhon (Fitzgerald) says:

    I would check with someone from Monomakhos. They’ll probably prove that this was either caused by contrails or it was another filthy scheme of George Soros. They should wait for Trump to make the right accusation in a tweet.

    • Peter Ray Millman says:

      Your Grace,
      Your post is really funny. I’m not really a fan of presidency by tweet myself.

  3. I know what happened.

    The sicko commercialization of the gun industry into Barbie doll fashion (new accessories for Christmas! Or Alex Jones (sic) said I need 4000 AR rounds to protect my family), combined with the lack of a responsible government, combined with the false or pseudo love for the misinterpreted 2nd Amendment along with Bumpfire’s motive ational(sic) video of a man not neglecting his 2nd Amendment rights and firing at straw men in the dark = Vegas shooting.

    Guy was a fn gun nut. Country is full of ’em. Most wouldn’t have fallen in love with bumpfire in this fashion. He got ? Creative?

    The only remedy is revenge on the makers of bumpstocks. And since you can’t get it lawfully; someone will have to go vigilante. Out of 400-500 victims; chances are good that someone touched by the criminal commercialization of guns will find out who made or sold bumpfires to Paddock. And when that day comes; it’ll barely make the evening news.

    But I’d say that day is coming; even if it is from Christ himself.

    • George Michalopulos says:

      Even the libs have had to admit that Paddock broke no present gun laws. Therefore, unless your a gun abolitionist, there was no way to prevent the Mandalay atrocity.

      • Just give up and let the terrorists be led by Paddock’s example.

        Bumpfire is as close to fully auto as the imagination will allow.

        Gun lust fantasies run wild.

        • The criminality is when the government allowed it. ATF got all technical about what makes a gun automatic, but were frozen in their own mindset and nitty legal languge instead of simple realities. I love how people want ‘common sense’ approaches when they think it applies, but not on something as basic as what makes a gun functionally automatic. Who cares if a single trigger pull makes it work? The creator of bumpfire stocks himself loves full auto. And his movie that inspired Paddock has vanished from the internet.

          • Consider for a moment the pronoun police MS faced…no different. They are so stuck in a mindset of this or that language; they fail to see the substantive facts.

            Most of our grandparents would have considered the commercialization of the gun industry wasteful, but the right has so embraced the false narrative of its my right on the liberal advancements in gun accessories; they can’t even reflect on what grandpa would have said about bumpfire and 100 round mags.

            A true liberal would be for bumpfire and a true conservative would say it is wasteful and unneeded, but the industry has twisted it into being your right.

            If you have a right to murder the unborn; then you have a right for bumpfire, and vice versa. Those are, ahemm, morally consistent.

            The inconsistencies of the political parties here is bizarre, simple pandering to their money/ voting bases.

            I encourage everyone to see past it and develop your own views.

            There is no moral inconsistency between saying abortion is bad and bumpfire is bad. But if you say bumpfire is good; you can’t say abortion is bad (and be consistent). And if you say abortion is good; you can’t say bumpfire is bad. Ironically, the positions of the latter two are party positions with clear moral inconsistency.

            Tomi Lahren pointed out the inconsistencies of the right regarding liberty and abortion and it got her fired. Anyone on the left says abortion is bad is instantly marginalized, despite it being grossly overused.

            Reject party positions and make America great again.

    • Michael Bauman says:

      The only rational reason to have automatic or near automatic weapons in private hands is to compete somewhat with government weapons when the come to get us. But even that will not do it. The weaponry of any government is much larger and more lethal than anything even a private militia could muster.

      • George Michalopulos says:

        True, they have drones and such. However, the armed might of the American populace is akin to a choke-point –say the Ardennes Forest–which historically has protected France from German invasion. In other words, it can be overcome but any enemy to the east must take two things into account: first, invading forces must be concentrated through that choke-point (and can thus be more easily defended against, and second, the invader must take the fact of an effective defense into account.

        The Deep State has two concerns regarding the American people and the Second Amendment: first, are they willing to to consider the casualties that they will suffer even if they do win and second, can they trust the armed forces to carry out their program? Remember, Lincoln had to import tens of thousands of Irish, German and Central European immigrants (and grant them citizenship and land grants) in order to augment the Union Army in order to successfully prosecute the War between the States. It worked for Lincoln but only because he was unafraid of prosecuting the War to the fullest extent possible. Does such a scenario obtain today? Where will a future Deep State president get the foreign mercenaries to subjugate the populace?

        I’m not saying that it’s impossible, I’m just saying that these things must be taken into account. In any event, I’d rather we be armed and never have to find out.

        Given the fact that the eleven states of the Confederacy make up 40 percent of the armed forces that’s a dicey proposition. When you add in the other states from the Midwest to the Rocky Mountain West that number climbs to over 85 percent. What percentage of these warriors will actively and mercilessly put down their kinsmen?

        • Jim of Olym says:

          eleven states of the Confederacy make up 40 percent of the armed forces that’s a dicey proposition.
          don’t they have enough domestic employment in the south to account for those who are unemployed. Must be a problem there!

          • George Michalopulos says:

            Not at all. I’ll try to get you the link describing the demographic makeup of the Armed Forces.

    • Michael Bauman says:

      Commercial bumpstocks outlawed. People make their own.

      It is impossible to legislate evil out of existence. To think so is one if the grand delusions of our time as we think evil is always someone else’s fault.

      Law is only as good as the moral and spiritual consensus of the culture that makes the law. Our country has no such consensus. Therefore our laws are imposed randomly and/or ignored.

      Lawmakers are egregiously unethical and immoral and vulgar. The laws they make are solely for the benefit of themselves and their donors.

      Passions rule. How many wish to subject our passions to the scrutiny of anyone else? How many of us do the work necessary to govern our passions?

      • Since we can’t legislate evil; why bother?

        Why bother then making any law?

        This is a defeatist attitude propagated by the commercialized gun industry.

        Everyone wants bumpfire for Christmas because we can call it Christmas again.

        Holy Hannah.

        There is no reason for anyone to have bumpfire. Your grandfathers would have said it wasted bullets.

        No conservative can honestly maintain a moral compass and believe this is wise or good for America or needed by anyone.

        A liberal might think it is an expression of absolute freedom.

        I think a lot of conservatives don’t even understand conservativism.

        • Michael Bauman says:

          One can and certainly should legislate AGAINST evil, but the secularists really do try to legislate evil (by their lights) out of existence. Big difference. The secular attitude leads to tryanny.

          Often evil, according to them, includes Christianity.

          It certainly includes anyone who wants to defend themselves against tryanny. The last two Democratic candidates for President made a point of saying how dangerous and deplorable we are.

  4. Michael Bauman says:

    People are going crazy. The culture demands it from the Twit in Chief to Harvey Weinstein to the NFL to whomever is next.

    It is the inevitable result of a world and people who deny God and His incarnate son. My craziness is just not as public or as obviously destructive.

    Our problem is neither political nor ideological, it is the result of men’s hearts failing them for fear. There is no center.

    Jesus Campos may be the only sane one in the whole mess.

  5. I read a book way back in the 60’s titled Stand on Zanzibar. It was given to me by a co-worker whose wife worked for the CIA. Chad C. Everett the lead character describes a world very close to the craziness we are now experiencing The whole world was plagued by what the book called muckers. I tend to think this violence is planned as a part of NWO forced acceptance on all nations. The Paddocks are here, there ,every where which justifies the brutal policia, armed to the teeth, here and every where else. As the mafia boss Carlos said, nice and neat.

  6. People live and people die. That’s the world we live in. Not possible to save every fallen sparrow. God takes care of us in the world to come and does a presentable job of it here on earth despite human free will and sin.

    ISIS initially claimed they had turned the Vegas guy. I never heard what happened to that lead – if it was a dead end false claim or if anyone ever investigated whether the shooter had contact with mujahedin.

    http://www.newsweek.com/if-isis-behind-las-vegas-shooting-terrifying-reason-prove-yet-681166

    It is a mystery why someone would commit the particular acts that Paddock did unless it was a) a Muslim “nightclub”-type killing (they see such venues [casinos, nightclubs] as dens of iniquity and perfect targets) or b) dude just snapped and went postal.

    It’s a safe bet that we’re not being told the whole story. It may be that the authorities do not want to disclose that an independent, self made man could be weaponized so quickly and decisively by ISIS propaganda.

    The thought is a bit unsettling.

    • Linda Albert says:

      I don’t think Steven Paddock “just snapped and went postal.” I think this was a long landslide into delusional paranoia. He was a thrill addict, from his gambling history, dependent on that adrenaline rush. I think as the high he got from gambling began to wane the anticipated thrill of mowing down people like a scythe going through hay began to possess his chemically altered brain, altered by his long self indulgence in thrill seeking adrenaline and endorphin rushes. There’s no conspiracy here, just the inevitable wages of unrepented sin over a lifetime.

      • Oh? Here is the real deal.

        The FBI and the ATF already know the motive. They can’t deliver it. He was motivated by Bumpfire’s video that has now vanished from the interweb, but might exist on someone’s pc.

        They are desperately seeking any reasonable alternative because the excess freedoms of bumpfire and its marketing are the direct cause of the gun loving idiots psychosis. “Don’t neglect your 2nd Amendment privilege and shoot at straw men in the dark.”

        The FBI behavioralists have known this for weeks, but are unable to tell the public.

        The answer we will get is undetermined.

        They can’t blame a gun loving idiot because the nation is full of them and they’d offend millions.

  7. Michael Bauman says:

    Peter, even if one grants that Freemasonry is not a religion, at best it is syncretistic which is itself heretical and problematic for Orthodox.

  8. Peter Ray Millman says:

    Michael,
    I would be the last one to try to convert anyone to freemasonry. As far as syncretism goes, it’s no more syncretistic than the US Senate or the first amendment to the US Constitution. By the way, are you aware of the strong masonic influence of President Trump? He has great respect and admiration for his late pastor Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, an active 33rd degree Mason. Do you want to know who the masons are in your church? Look at its most active members- and there you will find the masons. The Greek Orthodox Diocese in America was founded by a freemason.

    • Peter Ray Millman says:

      Michael,

      I don’t want to leave anyone with the impression that membership in the lodge is in any way, shape or form acceptable for the Orthodox Christian. I agree 100% with the Church’s proscription against membership in freemasonry. It is not a Christian organization, and is therefor off limits for the Orthodox Christian. It will soon die out in America, I believe.

      • George Michalopulos says:

        Wise words, Peter. If I may, I don’t believe that Masonry is evil per se. It does however lead to a religious nonchalance that makes a fully-formed Christian life difficult, if not impossible.

        For example, when I joined the Lodge, the chaplain who helped me in my memorization courses was a kindly old fellow who was a retired minister. He regularly told me how he didn’t put too much stock in Christian orthodoxy and that “it was all the same”. I realize he was a tolerant fellow but after about the second or third time he told me this, I began to get a queasy feeling. Red flags started coming up. And the more I studied, the more I realized that the various rituals were in a very real sense the “recapitulation” of ancient mystery cults, like the Eleusynian mysteries and Mithraism, etc. Thus in good conscience, I couldn’t be both an Orthodox Christian and a Mason. It just didn’t compute.

        I’m sure that had I continued in Masonry and given my innate Orthodox mysticism, I’d probably be in the occult now. I think that’s what happened with a lot of Russian intellectuals in the later Romanov period, what with Theosophy and such. For what it’s worth, Masonry opened the doors to many German intellectuals to the Thule Society and other such hyperborean philosophies that culminated in Nazism.

        • Michael Bauman says:

          Actually George, it seems to lead to an intolerence for the truth.

        • Tim R. Mortiss says:

          There are sides to American Masonry that I think a lot of “Freemasonry fearers” simply don’t see. In the mid- and late 19th century, and on into the early 20th, people were very taken with the rituals of fraternal organizations. There were many more of these than just the Masons. One can speculate that these substituted for the ritual that was absent from most Protestantism.

          Moreover, these organizations reflected a public social life that we can no longer even imagine. Not just long before television, but long before movies as well. You can see old photos with ballrooms jammed with diners at various soires at the Masonic halls. Our old hall in Tacoma has 10 ballrooms, most of which would be filled on weekends in the 1920s. (The Masons sold it decades ago, and it is a successful event venue nowadays.)

          A lot of this was pure time-filling sociability in a very different society. There were many very positive aspects to it. For a long time now, we’ve been atomized socially in a way that I think would have been repugnant to them.

          • Michael Bauman says:

            Here is my experience with Masonic parties: the teenagers I knew growing up who were in the Masonic teen groups were social alright with alcohol and sex.

            I know one young lady at Church who is deeply infected with Masonic egalitaianism and even though she has been in the Orthodox Church all her life–actively she has never become Orthodox.

            Other folks I have known who are involved with the Mason’s come across the same way.

            Their philosophy does not acknowledge Jesus as our one Incarnate Lord, God and Savior. In fact it denigrates that. Syncretism is pernicious.

            That sort of teaching is not benign. It kills people’s souls. I do not care what other “good works” they may do.

            • Tim R. Mortiss says:

              I suppose that, all taken with all, it is a pointless discussion. As I’ve said one time or another when the subject has arisen, neither I nor anybody in my rather large and extended family has ever been a Mason, excepting one great-grandfather, who died over 60 years ago. I have no axes to grind about the Masons. They have been moribund for generations.

              If it was only the Masonic teenagers these days were “alright with alcohol and sex” then we’d have little to worry about!

              I suppose I’ve been drawn to the discussions because when, in the fullness of time, I stumbled upon this site, I found people who actually took them seriously, for the first time in my life.

              Perhaps the reason they have abandoned their Temples in most every town and city in the land is because they’ve gone underground, and are more dangerous than ever…..

  9. Joseph Lipper says:

    Regarding the Las Vegas shooting, it sounds like the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, which is owned by the behemoth MGM Resorts International, is greatly concerned about their liability and for lawsuits and potential lawsuits against them. Already here is a lawsuit:

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/woman-files-1st-lawsuit-against-mgm-resorts-over-las-vegas-shooting/

    It sounds like the security guard Jesus Campos has been paid off by his employer to keep silent. Anything he says on the national news could be used against the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino and the much larger target and parent company, MGM Resorts International. It is not surprising that they want him to keep silent.

    What does seem surprising is that it took the police so long to enter the hotel room of the shooter, maybe some 70 minutes after the first shooting. Everyone assumes that surveillance cameras and security systems and persons would be everywhere at a place like this in Las Vegas. So why the lag? It does sound like the MGM Resorts has some liability here.

    • George Michalopulos says:

      Joseph, I’m especially amused that Campos was kept under cover until he went onto that hard-hitting journalist enterprise known as The Ellen DeGeneres Show. Which coincidentally is owned by MGM.

      I’ll give the modern Great American Propaganda Machine that is the Corporate Media this: they are far more sophisticated in their presentation than the straight-up commies ever were. You had to dig deep (or go to Breitbart) to find out the corporate connection between Ellen and Mandalay Bay.

  10. cynthia curran says:

    Could be the lack of God. I was commenting on another blog and mention about a protestant church that I attended as a kid started the modern Christian worship movement and someone told me how did on get on the website and the internet was scary and I should watched TB. It took me awhile to figure it out that they just didn’t like any form of Christianity. I think not so s much the shooting in Las Vegas but the rise of Antifa at colleges shows the burning hatred against Christians these days and people wanting to create a communist utopia Barrack Obama who I think is really an atheist but sympatric toward Muslims brought this about in his presidency since he legalized gay marriage and so forth. even Anonymous the internet guy stated that Antifa should not riot on November the 4th against Trump.