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Memo to Syosset: Retired or Not Retired? That is the Question

Mitrich says:
September 16, 2012 at 4:34 pm

they are saying that their unwritten internal rule…has the power to override the Statute of the OCA (which…clearly specifies when a bishop can be removed from his diocesan office) and the Holy Canons.

How does an “unwritten internal rule” have such aforesaid “power”?
Who or what can give subject “unwritten internal rule” such “power”?
Only the AAC?
Sounds like more of the same “Keystone Kops” stuff to me.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 17, 2012 @ 7:12 pm

Monk James says:
September 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm

Abp Dimitrios regretfully noted his absence.

Did he note that before the assembled EA?
It so, do you think it made the OCA bishops in attendance “squirm in their seats”?
It doesn’t matter because they are obviously stubbornly/cold heartedly committed 100% to their present fraudulent course of action against Met.+Jonah anyway, no matter what other bishops of jurisdictions say or think. They also obviously think they are going to “swim” rather than “sink” with it not realizing that everything they’ve done or even said so far has ended up with “unintended consequences.”

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 17, 2012 @ 3:20 pm

Unfortunately for him, his reputation from now on, no matter what position he holds as a bishop, will be as one who stole/leaked emails, especially to defame another. Who now would ever trust him with anything in private or in confidence. It will go with him like a visible blemish on his forehead. And it’s no one’s fault but his own.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 17, 2012 @ 10:41 am

One of the big dangers of a parish priest “entering the fray” is that of dividing his personal flock into pro-Jonah and anti-Jonah factions on top of all the little factions he has to deal with now during a “normal day at the office.”

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 16, 2012 @ 5:57 pm

LOH, I sounded kinda cocky, didn’t I.
That was because 9:51pm is past this old Pdns’ best cognitive hours.
Please believe that I meant no disrespect.
PS: Being a dn. does not “set one above” any one else, it just assigns the special responsibility of “waiting on tables” (which is of great spiritual benefit for me).
And Pdn. is just an honorific bestowed for faithful “time in grade” except when such a one is attached to serve a bishop or at one of his cathedrals.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 16, 2012 @ 4:43 pm

It makes me think of King Henry II of England and Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Becket.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 16, 2012 @ 6:20 am

colette says:
September 15, 2012 at 6:20 pm

+Jonah signed the paper, his title and intent are in writing.

Maybe the problem is they can’t read beyond the 3td. grade level.
That would explain a lot of their mess ups.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 16, 2012 @ 6:13 am

Does a bishop have to have a diocese in order to participate in the ACOB?

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 16, 2012 @ 6:00 am

LOH says:
September 15, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Protodiakon from NJ (am I right or are his initials NJ or ? )asks

I wouldn’t be concerned about it if I were you.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 9:51 pm

Until he is appointed Bishop of the DOS???

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 9:46 pm

Veronica says:
September 15, 2012 at 8:58 pm

Metropolitan Jonah had no intention to resign as Archbishop of Washington.
This is why he signed his letter of resignation as Archbishop of Washington.
Since he had not received another Episcopal assignment, he is still an Archbishop of Washington.

So, by assigning a locum tenen there, it means that they threw him out of there, also. Another lie to go along with the “retired” thing
Veronica also said:

The majority of priests don’t raise their voices

Maybe some do, singularly, “under the radar.”

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 9:33 pm

Perplexedstepan, see Anons’ post of September 13, 2012 at 3:40 pm quoting St. Basil the Great, under the thread “And Now for a Word from One of the “DC Nuns.” It’s the counsel for all of us in this present “time of troubles.”

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 8:54 pm

Great “Keystone Kops” cover picture, George.
PS: I think that maybe Met. Jonah’s lawyer’s letter above should have mentioned also his request for reassignment of a bishopric to emphasize his “non-retired” status.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 4:43 pm

Fr. Victor’s memo states:

We will be also be joined by Metropolitan Jonah.

Does that mean that the MP, ROCOR, and Fr. Victor are just not up to date on Met. Jonah’s status, or does it imply something else? (Just asking.)

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 4:16 pm

Mitrich says:
September 15, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Another issue is that Metropolitan Jonah never resigned as the Archbishop of Washington, yet the Synod appointed a locum tenens for that diocese.

Is Metropolitan of the OCA and Archbishop of D.C. two separate Bishopircs or a single one? Met. Jonah’s request for Bishopric reassignment indicates to me that it is a single one, requiring the appointment of a locum tenens.
But then, who really knows???

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 3:59 pm

If they don’t officially make that correction beforehand, would the Nov. AAC be invalidated because it started off/conducted under false/incorrect information/pretense? (Just “thinking out loud” again.)

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 3:50 pm

And so, what right do they have of prohibiting him to serve anywhere without their permission?

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 15, 2012 @ 3:35 pm

An Open Letter to the Orthodox Church in America

I look at the comments of M. Stankovich and Bishop Tikhon (Fitzgerald) as coming from “stylites” atop columns of their own construction and elevation, and from there, pontificating infallibly “from on high” their superior intelligence and experience down upon the rest of us “clods of the earth” here below.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 21, 2012 @ 8:25 pm

Dear OccidentalGuido (Guy Westover) and George P.,
Sniping, sarcasm, and wise cracking can be used either negatively or positively, depending on intent.
Decide for yourself which was my case in hoping to bring Dn. Wheeler’s attention to the “inconsistency” of his statements.
Also, I was taught that
love for one’s neighbor is love for Christ in one’s neighbor;
I did not “hear” Christ in his statements.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 21, 2012 @ 6:24 pm

Bishop Tikhon (Fitzgerald) says:
September 20, 2012 at 9:59 pm

Takes me way back, PdnNJ.

All I get out of that “tidbit” of a story is that phil r. upp is probably an SVS Seminary student.
And calling Carpatho-Rusyns “Carps” is a downright prejudicial statement.
P.S. “your now Father Paul Kucynda”-?????

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 21, 2012 @ 5:17 pm

What should we think about someone who calls the Carpatho-Rusyn Orthodox “Carps”?
That tells me everything I need to know about where “phil r. upp” “is coming from.”
He sure is “phil” of “it.”

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 20, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

Chancellor Jillions should publish in writing just where telling lies, undermining trust, where the truth is being twisted, and the devil is at work twisting, turning, leading people astray, here.
I would sincerely like to know that for my own personal edification and repentance.
But If he won’t or can’t, or just can’t or won’t bring himself to do so, then I can only take what he says as meaningless.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 11:37 pm

I find Matins+Divine Liturgy on a Sunday Morning to be an awesome event, especially when serving as Deacon or singing in the choir.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 10:20 pm

I’m thinking now, that one of the best things to come out of this debacle is that,
the self-promotion of the OCA by its “leaders” (with its Metropolitan Council type of governance) as being the best model and umbrella for the unification of Orthodoxy in North America,
has been thoroughly debunked by the actions of those “leaders” themselves. Now the unification of Orthodoxy in North America can at least proceed without that “elephant in the room,” and I, for one, would not be surprised or saddened if the EA were to now consider the OCA as under the MP with “maximum autonomy.”
The Archivist of the OCA can then file it all away under the heading “Unintended Consequences.”

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 8:34 pm

Dn Eric Wheeler says:
September 18, 2012 at 8:31 pm

I do not have a vengeful bone in my body

I wish I could say that about myself and with the same self-assurance.

And

how scandalously abysmal your response was

I think I denote a bit of vengefulness in that.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 6:57 pm

They should have been, and should be, laicized!
and not “sheltered”
so that they could “work out their own salvation”
in fear and trembling
like all the rest of us sinners.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 4:09 pm

Because their consciences are dead.
Otherwise they wouldn’t still be doing
what they have been doing
and seemingly plan to continue doing
up through and beyond
the Nov. AAC.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 3:34 pm

Does my memory serve me correctly?
Isn’t/wasn’t Dn. Wheeler one of those in the “We Are Your Future” group?
Please correct me and I apologize beforehand if I’m wrong about that!

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 19, 2012 @ 3:23 pm

Bishop Tikhon (Fitzgerald) says:
September 17, 2012 at 7:45 pm

For the Parma or Karma Council, I’m sure the powers-that-be are trying to figure out how informed or uninformed the people “out there” are

Your Grace, do you think that the parish delegates to the Parma council may be more informed, and questioning, than the average parish laity? I think “success” there on the “righting of wrongs” is totally dependent on them.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 17, 2012 @ 11:16 pm

Definition:

nitpicking |ˈnitˌpiki ng | informal
adjective
looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, esp. in order to criticize unnecessarily : a nitpicking legalistic exercise.

» Posted By PdnNJ On September 17, 2012 @ 10:14 am